tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post8977675833349494507..comments2023-10-31T07:21:09.792-04:00Comments on William L. Anderson: But Why Would Anyone Bring False Charges? Part II: The Police, Prosecutors, and "judge" Brian HouseWilliam L. Andersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-6343080852457464022010-07-06T08:51:50.091-04:002010-07-06T08:51:50.091-04:00There was mention of the grand jury and how they c...There was mention of the grand jury and how they could bring back a true bill on these cases. I remember back during the trial, when someone posted how they were on a grand jury. It was back when Buzz first took over the DA's office and Arnt wasn't happy when the GJ refused to indict because they felt the evidence just wasn't there. He then reconvened them and basically told them they had to indict or spend time in jail for contempt or something like that. Not sure all the facts are right but the gist is there. That may not have seemed important at the time but it really was. Tonya's case never had a chance of not happening, just like Brad Wade's or anyone else caught up in this madness. According to what I've heard from everyone, only the prosecution in GA has access to a grand jury. The other states I've lived in allow the defense present other evidence to a grand jury, in an effort to forestall an indictment, so not sure if this is truly the case of just a situation of these prosecutors flexing their insignificant muscles to control the trial process even more. What I do know is that these men (Arnt, Gregor, and Franklin) have already spent years circumventing the law by bullying grand juries. If they did it once, successfully, they have probably done it other times but those citizens are too afraid to come forward. I can only hope, when this whole thing blows up, everyone caught in the mess created by these out of control prosecutors comes forward to testify at their disbarment hearings. It's really the only way to force change in this area.KC Sprayberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01090961846554719289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-89553830118462853962010-07-05T23:08:02.316-04:002010-07-05T23:08:02.316-04:00It's kind of like drugs, you hear from others ...It's kind of like drugs, you hear from others how you can make your problems disappear if you just "use the stuff" (make an accusation). Then, after it's used, the nightmare begins. <br /><br />Perhaps we need Nancy Reagen to go on TV and say, "Just say no to false child molestation accusations."Lamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-4735324728257428232010-07-05T21:05:56.725-04:002010-07-05T21:05:56.725-04:00"Speaking of children lieing about sexual mol..."Speaking of children lieing about sexual molestation, once it gets out to kids that they can get back at parent or pretty much blackmale theme into never spanking them, this is going to really affect parenting rights."<br /><br />It's done often. I have made a practice of studying this here in the US and in the UK.<br /><br />These kids do use CPS as a club and often allege abuse at the urging of another teen. Little do they know the nightmare that they thrust themselves and their families into.<br /><br />Reader from NYCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-70063927546151617802010-07-05T19:56:20.777-04:002010-07-05T19:56:20.777-04:00Anon@3:18 Yes, Chattooga is a rough place, and in...Anon@3:18 Yes, Chattooga is a rough place, and in many ways (but not all) deserves its reputation. I'm not native but have been here a long time now. There are some good people here and it could be a great place to live, but it continues to go downhill fast as people who could start to bring about change flee as soon as they can, and the county then sinks lower into poverty, etc. I can't blame those people leaving for greener pastures and somewhere not so oppressively backwards in it's thinking, as I plan to do the same thing eventually. <br /><br />It is no crime in my book to start out your adult life ignorant because of the circumstances life dealt you. But in this day and age to continue to not only be that way, but to actually seem to be proud of it, and then pass it onto the next generation, I cannot accept and find unforgivable. There is way too much of that disgusting attitude in this county, and it manifests itself in many ways, including the abuse that I agree truly does happen here and way too frequently. That's the problem with the whole Tonya fiasco, despite what that cowardly waste of good air incompetent idiot Buzz Franklin wants us to believe from his press release. The LMJC's actions are going to make it harder to address real problems that truly do exist, and must be be dealt with when substantiated. In my book, it's the boy who cried wolf scenario - any time I hear or read of an allegation, there's going to be some serious doubt to overcome before I even begin to consider it might be true. <br /><br />The scary thing is I have worked with governments and people in all the LMJC counties and Catoosa in my opinion is by far the least backwards, so for what happened to Tonya to happen there, I can only imagine what it would have been like had it happened here. Before the truth started to come out, she probably would have been lucky to not have a literal lynch mob show up on her doorstep while law enforcement all managed to somehow be on the other side of the county right at that moment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-52712310208186759472010-07-05T15:30:24.972-04:002010-07-05T15:30:24.972-04:00DMK, thatnks for that article. I noticed the &quo...DMK, thatnks for that article. I noticed the "couple of interviews" too, and that is clearly in breach of protocal. It is supposed to be one interview, conducted thoroughly and sensitively, and done. The protocal says that there should be as few interviews as possible. They have already done three on this girl. The damage is already done. Way to go! This is exactly the kind of crap Tonya Craft is now fighting to stop. Speaking of children lieing about sexual molestation, once it gets out to kids that they can get back at parent or pretty much blackmale theme into never spanking them, this is going to really affect parenting rights.Lamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-50474807582687952622010-07-05T15:18:50.918-04:002010-07-05T15:18:50.918-04:00dmk I do not know if the charges are true or not.C...dmk I do not know if the charges are true or not.Chattooga is a rough county.Yeas ago I had a friend who taught there,it was very sad to hear about the true victims being harmed by the parents.She told me so many true stories about child abuse that she saw with her own eyes.One day one of the teachers reported abuse,the day the mother got out on bond she jumped the teacher in the parking lot & beat her up severely.Any time our school goes there for a game parents keep a close eye,even with our teenagers.I know not everyone in the county is white trash but it is crazy how many are & do miss treat the children.I know several families who live there & send their children to other schools because of things like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-7749465756921587812010-07-05T15:02:05.703-04:002010-07-05T15:02:05.703-04:00No, the individuals making up the grand jury are c...No, the individuals making up the grand jury are certainly not to blame. They decide purely on the information that the prosecutors present to them. However, the grand jury SYSTEM needs to be reformed because it is a playground for abuse by prosecutors. It was intended as a buffer between the government and its citizens. This is over-simplification but King George could bring charges against whomever he chose, often because they were political enemies. If you can charge someone with a crime, you can bring them to trial. That is a dangerous power. A grand jury made up of citizens interposed between the government and a target of an investigation was supposed to prevent this abuse of power. Instead, the grand jury is just another government puppet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-33204484008602617492010-07-05T14:54:06.642-04:002010-07-05T14:54:06.642-04:00Lame, Very interesting article and just confirms w...Lame, Very interesting article and just confirms what I already believed from a common sense standpoint - that surprise, surprise, a small child is not a reliable source for any piece of information, even in the best of circumstances. Throw in some poor interviewing, and not reliable becomes totally unreliable and basically just random.<br /><br />And it continues.......A couple of weeks ago I read this about the arrest of a man here in the LMJC for molesting a four year old along with the arrest of his wife (the mother) for attempting to influence a witness. <br /><br />http://thesummervillenews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3327&Itemid=2<br /><br />I don't know exactly what Deputy Kandy Dodd's credentials to be conducting these interviews are, but if you think Catoosa Co "justice" is way behind the times, come on down to Chattooga County and see what still dwelling in the Dark Ages is all about. I would almost bet her formal training, if any, is along the lines of "I went to a seminar in Huntsville for a few days" variety. Note also that Dodd had conducted "a couple of interviews" before the child was taken somewhere else for a forensic interview, so you can guess what that went like, tainted on top of tainted.<br /><br />Maybe they are guilty as charged, maybe not, but the truly sad thing here in the LMJC is we will never know. I have no idea who the alleged are, but their ages together with not being a "big name" locally almost guarantees they won't have the resources to be bringing D-Lo and crew back to the LMJC, with a change of venue to Summerville this time around.<br /><br />I have a child and I love her with all of my heart and soul and would do anything to keep her from harm, but this "all for the kids" mentality is just totally out of control. When confronted by authority figures, a FOUR YEAR OLD child is presenting conflicting stories, and to these experts the one that has been repeated the most times evidently means it must be true. I'll say it again, A FOUR YEAR OLD!!!!!!dmknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-28626540886222674912010-07-05T14:43:20.936-04:002010-07-05T14:43:20.936-04:00The grand jury is not to be blamed for this case g...The grand jury is not to be blamed for this case going to trial. They sent the case based on the information they received from the prosecutors.tplashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661924827013086855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-37525685175092589612010-07-05T14:42:29.080-04:002010-07-05T14:42:29.080-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.tplashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12661924827013086855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-16831967711181021892010-07-05T13:38:02.286-04:002010-07-05T13:38:02.286-04:00Miriam graduated from UGA in '88funny enough h...Miriam graduated from UGA in '88funny enough her degree is in education.If she ever taught it was only a couple of years.She tutors at the childrens home.You would think she would have a little more common sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-85929398307320250492010-07-05T13:13:38.719-04:002010-07-05T13:13:38.719-04:00The grand jury is comprised of citizens and they a...The grand jury is comprised of citizens and they are chosen much like a petit (trial) jury. The Tonya Craft case is the poster child for reforming the grand jury system. Grand jury was intended to be a citizen barrier between the government and its citizens. Now it is just a rubber stamp for prosecutors. Clue Number One: The grand jury is conducted in secret. How many governmental functions do you trust to be conducted in secret? Clue Number Two: Only the prosecutor is allowed. Need I say more? If the grand jury system is reformed properly, it will FORCE all the other pieces into place, the intake, the investigation, the interviews, etc. so that lives are not ruined. Lives are already ruined by trial, it is the indictment that is the ruination of an individual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-61452192687348101262010-07-05T12:15:11.114-04:002010-07-05T12:15:11.114-04:00Who is in the grand jury in catoosa county and how...Who is in the grand jury in catoosa county and how often do they meet to indict people?mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14095239514865936349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-2269956332449959622010-07-05T11:28:12.445-04:002010-07-05T11:28:12.445-04:00Mrs. Boyd is a stay at home mother. No credentials...Mrs. Boyd is a stay at home mother. No credentials on this subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-86094165997376590302010-07-05T11:25:03.489-04:002010-07-05T11:25:03.489-04:00Lame,
That was an interesting article on the rese...Lame,<br /><br />That was an interesting article on the research by psychologist Jane Rawls (who received her doctorate at the University of Kansas!!).<br /><br />I had no luck finding a copy of the actual research paper, but the search for it revealed a much worse problem across the pond. <br /><br />As with most trends we experience here in the USA, the problem with the governing body dictating how a child is to be raised, and who controls the culture to be taught, has progressed with a greater hysteria in the region of the world we seem to replicate often - the socialistic trends of Europe.kbphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814695387546108048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-75904413598614997112010-07-05T08:29:01.442-04:002010-07-05T08:29:01.442-04:00Correction: "layer" should be "law...Correction: "layer" should be "lawyer".Mary Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08428245645886673016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-79102136790308542072010-07-05T08:17:39.690-04:002010-07-05T08:17:39.690-04:00I particularly want people like Miriam Boyd to rea...I particularly want people like Miriam Boyd to read the article. She publicly kept saying, "Children just don't make up these (sexual) stories", but she was wrong. Yes, Children do make up even sexual stories. <br /><br />In all fairness to Miriam Boyd, I must add that her way of thinking is not uncommon at all, as the regular posters here know so well, and that is one of the reasons why false charges are constantly made against innocent people and in many cases the jurors are convinced of the defendants' guilt, because they "believe" the children. Besides, maybe, Mrs. Boyd was just being a loyal friend to Sandra Lamb. That being said, I was always disturbed by the authoritative way Mrs. Boyd was speaking when she made her statement that "Children just don't make up these (sexual) stories." When I first saw her on T.V., I thought she was either a layer or a child psychologist based on the authoritative and camera savvy manner in which she was speaking. I wonder what she is by profession and what credentials she has on the subject. <br /><br />In any case I sincerely hope that Dr. Rawls' work becomes a common knowledge so that no more false charges are made against innocent people like Tonya Craft or Brad Wade.Mary Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08428245645886673016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-22320089243369525812010-07-05T07:53:56.096-04:002010-07-05T07:53:56.096-04:00I just wonder what the folks in Atlanta are doing ...I just wonder what the folks in Atlanta are doing concerning this case.<br />The easy way out is to say, "I see no fowl her with the prosecution. The justice system worked. The jury found her NOT Guilty. Why should we investigate, when the system clearly worked? End of story."<br />Yet I KNOW this is not the answer.<br />If GA courts are working as the HAG tag team and this is the 'norm', then we have serious problems.<br />Surely some of the officials will be brave enough to step up and note the problems. This is the ONLY way to make improvements.<br />Either the laws are flawed from the very origins of this matter, OR some means of reprimand needs to happen.<br />However you feel about this story about Tonya, the system screwed up royally. <br />All the parents that instigated the interviews should be held financially responsible.<br />So far we have just NOT seen enough change taking place. I know some have quit their job, and this is good. <br />Arnt was probably the 11:44 anon who opened the door to explain he was about to leave. <br />Mr Arnt,<br />This will help, but you know way more serious change is needed.<br />Please take ALL your buddies with you and open your own private practice. I wish you well.eagle1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-58243908722005467892010-07-05T07:33:34.218-04:002010-07-05T07:33:34.218-04:00Lame,
What a great article! It is true, EVERYONE...Lame,<br /><br />What a great article! It is true, EVERYONE should read this article including all the employees at CAC and DA's office of LMJC. <br /><br />I hope Dr. Rawls keeps up with her good work. <br /><br />It is interesting that the Children and Young Persons’ Service (CYPS) over there (in New <br />Zealand) are getting defensive and criticizing this research. <br /><br />We must accept that children lie for no reasons that adults' minds can rationalize! <br /><br />Thank you, Lame for finding this article.Mary Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08428245645886673016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-66334570177633606512010-07-05T01:32:24.019-04:002010-07-05T01:32:24.019-04:00You guys need to read this article:
http://www.ar...You guys need to read this article:<br /><br />http://www.articlesaboutmen.com/2010/07/04/5-yr-olds-the-truth-study-into-false-sexual-abuse-stories/<br /><br /><br />"Depending on the way questions were asked, the children’s total accuracy of recall about a variety of situations at their first set of interviews ranged from 13 per cent to nil."<br /><br />"What was especially frightening was that errors appeared to evolve over time with repeated interviews and, for many, were first reported when diagrams of body parts were used."<br /><br />"Interview questions were either closed (“Did he touch you on the . . .”), open (“What happened?”) or a mixture of the two forms of questions. The ones who got it most wrong, the study found, were the children who were asked closed questions."<br /><br />Let us go back to the interview with R Lamb. Look at the three interviews, and you'll see far more closed questions than open questions. It is no wonder that this has happened. You know, I'm still convinced that R Lamb may have initially started the whole ball rolling on this because she wanted to avoid punnishment over instigating girl-on-girl sexual contact. But, now, I am starting to think that when she did that she had no idea she'd do this kind of dammage; she just didn't want to get punnished. The closed questions that the interviewers asked her are what caused her, not innocent but certainly not malicious shifting of blame, to turn into outright lies. She was manipulated, not from the start, but from very near the start, into creating these lies. The sad thing is that some of these interviewers may not have done this intentionally. That is why MAJOR changes are needed at CAC-type centers in this country, and every person who had their child taken away from them (Tonya Craft, Valerie Carlton, Brad Wade, and sadly, so many others) deserve to hold the wire cutters that castrates every interviwer who led a child into creating false memories & false accusations.Lamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-58566261040958053552010-07-04T19:03:34.479-04:002010-07-04T19:03:34.479-04:00KC, the statement about making a false allegation ...KC, the statement about making a false allegation against the accusers was intended to be sarcastic irony, not an actual plan of action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-16518274388336317222010-07-04T19:01:45.621-04:002010-07-04T19:01:45.621-04:00Anon 11:44 stated, "Either Arndt or Gregor (m...Anon 11:44 stated, "Either Arndt or Gregor (maybe both) will leave the DA's office and become criminal defense lawyers in a few years. Their talents are better suited for that side."<br /><br />I would say that their talents are best served making little ones out of big ones at a state or federal pen.Lamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-14115675727006354432010-07-04T18:28:06.837-04:002010-07-04T18:28:06.837-04:00I'll keep this short and sweet GOVERMENT CANT ...I'll keep this short and sweet GOVERMENT CANT DO ANYTHING BUT MAKE THINGS WORSE, THEY NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL GET IT RIGHT! Unless, they go back to the foundation that started this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-46921429525646659382010-07-04T16:44:38.625-04:002010-07-04T16:44:38.625-04:00JD, yours is such a simplistic method but the best...JD, yours is such a simplistic method but the best in this situation. Money is always a powerful motivator. I'm certain Buzz didn't say he was going after child molesters because he loves children. No, there's money there, just as there's money in drug arrests and convictions. Both are huge in prosecutions around here in LMJC. Not a week goes by when there's not an arrest for one or both of those types of criminal actions. So, audit the heck out of those folks and find out if they're following the rules or making arrests and getting convictions, whether through trials or plea deals, and then decide if they should keep the money or have to hang their heads because they no longer have the gravy train funding them. Then let Buzz issue a memo after hours on Friday night complaining about how no one will come forward about these crimes because they know there's no money to prosecute. Maybe they'll actually be a little more picky about what they choose to take to the grand jury and the costs of doing these trials will decrease because malicious rumors won't be turned into circus's.KC Sprayberryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01090961846554719289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-286599265273958850.post-85352265609134985532010-07-04T12:01:53.693-04:002010-07-04T12:01:53.693-04:00Being an accountant I always follow the money trai...Being an accountant I always follow the money trail and I'm wondering if amending the Mondale Act to having monies taken away if in an audit they find have used techniques not allowed based on certain guidelines. The guidelines would be determined by people like Dr. Nancy Aldridge. For example, an organization would have to allow an audit of their interviews every year or two. A couple of certifiers would request (and must receive) certain taped interviews decided by the auditors. These should be ones that have have been used in court. If any one of those interviews have not met all the guidelines like not asking leading questions, injecting information that hasn't been given or using free narrative, then that organization is on probation and loses funding for 3 months. This doesn't stop them from interviewing so the auditors come back after the 3 months and ask for another set of interviews that have been done during that time. If they still have problems then a 6 month probation. If after that they don't comply they no longer get ANY Mondale Act money.<br /><br />You stop the money flow and you'd be surprised (or might not) how then the interviewers start acting correctly. It's just like if they were to actually prosecute perjury you would stop the perjury because while people might be willing to lie on the witness stand if nothing comes to them, they think twice if they believe someone will come after them.JDnoreply@blogger.com