Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Who Is Joal Henke?

When police and prosecutors attempt to frame someone for alleged child molestation, they need a lot of help. First, they need help from the "professionals" who conduct interviews with allegedly molested children. Second, they need help from the children, especially if it becomes clear to the child that telling lies will "please" the adults in their lives.

Third, they need help from outside parties who are more than willing to lie, something that prosecution witnesses in the Tonya Craft trial did in spades. In fact, lies defined much of the prosecution testimony. From the "hand rape" allegations that magically appeared in obviously fabricated documents to Sandra Lamb's denials that her daughter had received acting lessons to the false claim under oath by another witness that Tonya had NOT co-signed her power bill (to show a change of address) when "judge" Outhouse saw the document in front of him (which he refused to permit to be entered into evidence), the prosecution witnesses constituted a near parade of perjurers.

If one had to give an award for the Biggest Liar in the Tonya Craft Trial, it would be a tossup, given that the LMJC has turned into Perjury Central, but I think that Joal Henke certainly should be given consideration for First Prize. After all, here is a guy who describes himself as a "world class athlete," so I am sure that Henke would cherish being at the top of the list, given his ultra-competitive nature.

Because Henke's character is at issue in the continuing custody battle between Tonya Craft and her ex-husband, I believe that it is appropriate to re-visit Joal's performance in court when he was called to testify against his former spouse. Because the ramifications of his testimony were deadly serious, I believe that one cannot scrutinize his words or his character enough, and that is what I intend to do in this post.

Joal Henke is someone who is not easily shamed. For example, when Tonya was suing him for divorce several years ago, he denied her claims that he was having affairs with other women until he was confronted with strong evidence of him engaging in adultery. He had a "change of heart" when he realized he was caught.

Interestingly, when confronted with that material on the witness stand during Tonya's trial, he claimed to not have been aware that there was evidence of his adultery. That, of course, was perjury, but it was a minor instance to some of the other things he did while under oath.

Henke's greatest "I just remembered" feat of perjury, however, came with his allegation during his April 23 testimony when he claimed that on the way to court that morning, he had "recalled" an alleged "lesbian" incident involving Tonya and a friend of hers. (That and other whoppers are included in this media link from WRCB-TV for that day.)

First, one does not "just remember" something like what he had described. Such an event would be the kind that he would have told police and prosecutors up front. Second, it also tells us about the prosecutors and "judge" Outhouse that they would have let Henke enter this testimony in the first place, and that from the trial testimony, "Alberto-Facebook" clearly was anxious to make sure Joal made the allegations.

There was more. As the following exchange demonstrates, when Henke was caught in a lie, he claimed that it had to be a "typo." (I am not making up this point.)
Dad answers to inconsistencies in his statement, "I don't have a lot of experience with this"

Dad says he didn't include in statement that daughter was allegedly molested because authorities had not interviewed daughter yet.

Dad testifies what is in statement he gave is not true. Says it may be a typo.

Dad in statement says he was called by parents of "several" small girls about alleged abuse. Says today just parents of one girl.
Here is another jewel:
Dad says before allegations he barely knew parents of other accusers. Says, "that wasn't a circle I was welcomed into"

Phone records show dad talked to a mom of another alleged girl for 120 minutes.
Then there is this:
Dad says calls between him and other parents did not include details of the case.

Over 9 months records show dad talked to mom of other alleged victim more than 80 times, more than 200 mins total.
All of these are indications of what the ancients once called a "conspiracy," and that certainly falls under the legal standards set by federal law. Furthermore, I have not yet even dealt with the lies told by Joal's current wife Sarah Bass Henke, when she denied under oath on April 23 that she had shaved her own pubic hairs while showering with Tonya's daughter. (Bass Henke already had admitted to Dr. Ann Hazzard to having shaved while the child was in the shower with her, but because she was in the courtroom of "judge" Brian Outhouse and being questioned by the Dishonest Duo of "Alberto-Facebook" and "The Man," she knew that lying was permissible and even encouraged.)

For those readers not familiar with Henke, let us just say that he has some of the same characteristics of a former President of the United States who actively seeks sex from lots of women to whom he is not married. (No, he is NOT a "world-class athlete" under any circumstances. The only "world-class athlete" from Chattanooga is Phoebe Wright, who also is a person of much better character than is Henke.)

In fact, at one time his nickname was "Homewrecker," and I don't think that received that name from being in the building demolition business. No, Henke does not demolish buildings; he demolishes the lives of innocent people.

There are a few more things to add. First, he and Sarah are members of Eastwood Church, and I was told that at a recent hearing, Hamilton County Clerk Bill Knowles, who goes to Eastwood, sat in support of the Henkes. In other words, a man running for elective office, a person who is in a position of trust in county government, is supporting perjurers. I remember Knowles from my time in Chattanooga years ago, and always thought him to be a nice person.

However, if he is going to publicly support perjurers, I only hope he does not win any more elections. Voters need to make a statement that lying under oath in a court of law is not acceptable and that elected officials should not openly condone perjury.

Of course, what can one say about a church where its "respected" members commit perjury and lie in order to promote false charges against another person? Furthermore, what can one say when conviction of those false charges would have resulted in Tonya Craft going to prison for the rest of her life?

The Bible (which the people at Eastwood claim to believe) says some serious things about lying and false testimony. (The church's website claims to "place people above...man-made rules - whether they are cultural, traditional, or religious." I guess they consider the Ten Commandments to fall under the "man-made rules" category, and probably consider Proverbs 6:16-19 to be "man-made" as well.)

So, we have people who worship on Sunday, and commit serious crimes on other days, and no one at their church seems to bat an eye. We have Joal Henke's employer, Keller Williams Realty, willing to have a person on the staff who cannot be trusted in a legal situation. For that matter, Joal's current wife, Sarah, is a nurse at Parkridge Medical Center, and trust, truth, and the willingness to document accurately and truthfully are vital in that business, yet she could not even tell the truth about something to which she had admitted earlier because she was trying to have another person thrown into prison on charges that everyone knew were false.

Furthermore, like Joal, she "suddenly remembered" Tonya's daughter having "red" areas around her vagina, with the child waking up in the middle of the night claiming that "it hurts." Under cross-examination, Henke admitted that she had not told anyone in authority about this alleged situation, and never had mentioned it in any interviews with police, social workers, or in a deposition.

So, there it is: perjury on the record. And this is someone who signs medical records and attests to their truthfulness.

So, when you see Joal Henke and Sarah Bass Henke appear in court for the custody hearing (scheduled next week), know what kind of people they really are, and know that they are not people who can be trusted. Both of them were willing to lie to send an innocent woman to prison for the rest of her life, and they would do it again tomorrow if they believed they could get away with it.

I will add one more thing. I have the trial transcripts of both Joal and Sarah and have read them. There is much more I could have said in this post regarding their lack of truthfulness when testifying under oath.

66 comments:

kbp said...

Joal's life has to be a bit stressful now. Things are starting to pile up for him.

justiceseeker51 said...

Yep, the pot is boiling...

Mary Jane said...

Dr. Anderson,

Please keep writing! I would like to know more about the Henkes and their lies.

Was it the recent hearing regarding Tonya's temporary visitation arrangements with her children that the county clerk sat in in support of the Henkes? (Even though the two parties ended up striking a deal and the hearing didn't happen?) If so, it is so unethical for someone in his position to publicly take side in a private matter like this even if he was not doing so in his professional capacity. It is inappropriate, period!

When the police ransacked Dr. Ann Hazzard's office for no good reason, I wonder if they were trying to find the note that recorded Sarah Henke's confession about the shaving and confiscate (or destroy) it. I am sure there were a lot more exculpatory evidences that they were trying to destroy, though.

john lichtenstein said...

About the church members who do not condemn the violations of commandment #9, it is because they believe Joel. Liars only lie because people believe them. And community members prefer to believe other community members even when their claims are outlandish.

About the shaving, for women who cobathe, shaving with their kids is NBD. About getting help shaving, this seems pretty unlikely. Think about shaving your face. Are you going to shave your face in front of a 6 year old child, stepchild, or visitor? Yes. Are you going to get 6 year old to pull your chin tight? No. Really no.

Lame said...

John, I grew up with a mother who did a lot of things with me. We would go to swimming pools and Juniper Springs--the greatest recreation facility in the world until a bunch of f-ing students from UF burned it down during spring break one year. She would take me into the ladies room to change and do my business, and always made me go into a stall to change, always changed in a stall. I remember only a single time when a woman in one of those places was nude in front of me. At no time did my mother ever shave any part of her body in front of me. I ask all mothers who are on here, is it OK to shave your legs in front of your 4-7 year old child? Shaving your face is one thing but shaving your legs is different. I remember speaking with a girlfriend once about how her mom didn't even tell her that women shaved their legs until she was 16. Shaving your legs requires much more intimate regional skin to show than shaving your face. Comparing shaving your face in front of your kid to shaving your legs in front of a kid is like comparing a picture of a Ford truck with a photo of a Bugatti Veyron--one's manly and perfectly normal and the other is just pornography.

KC Sprayberry said...

Shaving for women is best done alone or if help is needed, with an adult partner. Now that the proverbial poop has hit the fan and Sarah and Joal Henke are facing ridicule for their actions and lies, I'm betting he'll come out and say he was completely unaware of her actions with his daughter. I'm sure Tonya wasn't his first wife nor will Sarah be his last. Joal is like far too men I've seen in recent years, only interested in his own pleasures and taking from others what they love most. That much was demonstrated during the criminal trial and if he's forced to give up his children, in repeated efforts to discredit Tonya again, and will be shown even more in the civil suit when it comes to trial.
Oh, Bill. Back during my childhood, my dad had an expression for folks like Sarah and Joal. Monday through Saturday sinners and Sunday churchgoers. Far too many of those so-called pious folks are very important in the church of their choice and manage to fool the more devote.

Anonymous said...

I raised three girls. Two were mine by birth and the third was mine by marriage. I never bathed with any of them. Help Shaving? Please. Sarah Henke should have been investigated by DFCS when this information came out and certainly before those children went back to her home. The only reasons that I can come up with for having this child help her shave are nefarious! Shame on you, Sarah!

Anonymous said...

Lame, I have 2 girls. I have never shaved my legs in front of them, but it wouldn't be a big deal if I did. Shaving a pubic area...in front of my kids? No way ever. And yes, getting a 6 year old to help her is just plain odd. Whether she meant for it to be or not...it is very unusual and thoughtless. She has tried to portray them as "hers", but this thoughtlessness is the perfect example of how they are NOT hers. She would have been more considerate. Don't get me wrong, I had a wonderful stepmother, but SBH is obviously one of those stepmothers who are only concerned about her and her husbands agenda and not the kids.
A while back someone wrote on the comment thread "Sarah believes her husband b/c she wants to be a good wife and b/c she loves him". Or something to that effect. The person who wrote that is in as much denial as SBH is about Joal's neverending love for her. She was willing to LIE and take another womans children away from her, and send her to prison. She will answer for that one day and not to put words in His mouth, but I very seriously doubt God will say...welllllll it's b/c you loved your husband....so I understand. Gimme a break. It's her responsibility as a person to stand up for what is right. She didn't. And lied time after time. Period.

Anonymous said...

Have the churches seen the evidence. I think the preachers, elders and deacons should have proof of the truth so they can choose truth or lies. They need to stay out of it until they have seen every bit of the evidence.

Knowles should go to jail if Tonya doesn't get her children back. His influence with the Judge may ruin those kids lives. I will consider him a responsible party if that Judge decides to give the kids to Joel. Another thing, I can't understand why any court would give temporary custody to a man that is married to a woman who would shower and shave pubic hair with his child. That's questionable?!?!

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify, Bill Knowles does not attend Eastwood Church. His two sons and their families do. And they run the church. So don't expect any condemnation from Eastwood.

William L. Anderson said...

8:37,

I am sure that the Eastwood Church people are giving the usual platitudes, and if people want to be conned, that is their business. However, don't forget that a delegation from Eastwood also sat on the prosecution side during Tonya's trial, and they were willing to swallow the perjury and prosecutorial and judicial misconduct that was obvious during the entire proceedings.

Ultimately, I believe that this church will slide off into the chasm known as the "Emergent Church" in which they will re-define reality and Christianity.

(Don't forget that the leader of the Emergent Movement, Brian McLaren, already has called for a "New Kind of Christianity" in which all of the historical Christian doctrines are trashed for some New Age stuff. I guess that the way that the Eastwood leadership handled the Tonya Craft case and its aftermath pretty much tells me that they already have decided that Truth is a lie, and a lie is Truth.)

When people "suddenly remember" outlandish things on the witness stand, generally speaking, such statements don't pass the smell test. Lying in order to falsely imprison an innocent person is something that the Bible absolutely condemns, yet the Eastwood Church leadership apparently has decided that the Bible does not apply when Joal and Sarah Henke testify under oath.

Anonymous said...

Bill,
You're absolutely correct in your assessment of Eastwood. Your actually being pretty generous as the leadership has already redefined reality and christianity. Truth became relative there a long time ago.

There are some wonderful people at Eastwood, but they are becoming fewer and fewer as they realize how unhealthy the leadership is. The events of this trial and aftermath have just let people outside that small, closed community see what it's really like there.

kbp said...

Joal's perjury should be an open topic for custody hearings. You can't file a lawsuit for perjury, but you should be able to point out the possible consequences it could bring on in criminal charges.

If they could show the family court that Joal committed perjury, they could argue that he cannot provide a secure household if he may be subject to facing charges for committing a felony.

I'm not sure how far either side will go in slinging mud at the custody hearing, but evidence that one of the parents committed a felony should be a factor that is given consideration in such a hearing.


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"Sarah ...a nurse at Parkridge Medical Center, ..."suddenly remembered" Tonya's daughter having "red" areas around her vagina, with the child waking up in the middle of the night claiming that "it hurts."


Yep! That reads like something a nurse would ONLY have "suddenly remembered" while on the stand testifying ...and pigs fly!

(one my favorites here, thanks Bill!)

Anonymous said...

This assessment only scrapes the surface of Joal Henke and what type of person he is...

Anonymous said...

Don't expect Eastwood to do anything, they have had many siutations in their church and have done nothing. I have to drive by occassionally, and I almost hit the ditch trying to avoid even going past it. The hair on the back of my neck, stands up.

As far as Bill Knowles is concerned, I have always voted for him. Not anymore, I'm done with someone that is that ignorant.

As far as Keller Williams is concerned, I have been looking at real estate. However, I won't even talk to them, because of the Henke trash that they hired.

I can't do alot about the situation but I can do that much.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

"Sarah ...a nurse at Parkridge Medical Center, ..."suddenly remembered" Tonya's daughter having "red" areas around her vagina, with the child waking up in the middle of the night claiming that "it hurts."

Actually, that's a positive. If you all remember right the poor child had a pretty bad rash from diarrhea. There may be plenty to slam Joal but this isn't one of them.

Alinusara10

kbp said...

Alinusara10,

The real point there I see is the NURSE, who is accustomed to noticing such problems, ..."suddenly remembered".



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liberranter said...

(Don't forget that the leader of the Emergent Movement, Brian McLaren, already has called for a "New Kind of Christianity" in which all of the historical Christian doctrines are trashed for some New Age stuff...)

Militant statism being the other, this corruption of Christianity has become one of the twin pillars of the Amerikan "National Religion."

JD said...

KBP is correct. Being a nurse this should have been noted in interviews. It should never have been a "I just remembered" on the witness stand. Not only that I don't remember her doing anything other than taking a shower with the girl. That's not a treatment. She should have done something like take her to a doctor or treat it with over the counter ointments. I never read she did that. That is what any competent nurse would do. That is why she HAD to be lying on the stand. In addition, isn't she a mandatory reporter? I would think redness in that area would be something mandated to be reported.

Anonymous said...

God I hope mandatory reporters don't run to CPS every time a young child gets a rash.

Anonymous said...

I am glad you are raised the "Sarah shaves" issue again. It seemed as if it were glossed over and disregarded during the trial. Maybe I am too conservative— but if my children were watching, being exposed to or assisting a step parent shave their privates I WOULD GO BALLISTIC! I find this act utterly outrageous. This discovery, along with "sex in the bathroom while kids were in adjoining, open doored room" make me extremely suspicious of the Henke's ability to discern what is and what is not appropriate behavior when raising young children.

At one time I knew Joal well. I have little doubt he would go to great lengths to protect his ego and his self-given sense of superiority. This includes lying and fabricating a case against Tonya. (I do not consider him smart enough to have devised the scheme alone, though.) He was a cad and I am betting he still is.

If the courts do not give Tonya full custody and investigate the Henke's I will only stand firmer in my distrust and disgust with our courts and elected leaders.

Thanks to you Mr. Anderson for all your work exposing the corruption in this case.

Jusdaguy said...

I got up to "world class athlete" before I lost it. Even an actual world-class athlete doesn't describe himself as such! If you're world-class, the world already knows.

Now.......who's responsibility is it to bring charges for perjury in a courtroom? If the responsibility lies with the State and it's a State witness, one might surmise that'll never happen.

Unless leveling charges might take the heat off those who work for the State.......

Anonymous said...

Lame 11:33. On Brad wade Justice you said something about the 9th. Can you explain that for me..

William L. Anderson said...

Yeah, he is not even a world-class perjurer, as it was obvious he was lying!

Anonymous said...

...This discovery, along with "sex in the bathroom while kids were in adjoining, open doored room...

I have to admit I didn't hear about this. Care to elaborate?

Jusdaguy said...

Sorry - still stuck on the "world class athlete" thing. Apparently, Joal sees himself as the Old Spice Man. http://tinyurl.com/y9tpma9

JD said...

Your right that CPS shouldn't be called for every rash, but it was the perception that Sarah Henke gave on the stand that this was proof of abuse. If she thought that then she should have told someone. The main point is she told this story on the stand but her actions say something totally different, like she didn't see a any redness.

William L. Anderson said...

My sense is that Sarah and Joal were making up stuff as they went along. Furthermore, there was zero chance of them being charged with perjury, no matter how outrageous their statements.

It is a two-way deal. Prosecution witnesses would know of actual crimes that prosecutors committed, and prosecutors know the witnesses committed perjury, so both sides cover for the other.

As I have written before, there is a real-live crime wave in North Georgia, but the criminals are the authorities.

Anonymous said...

Your right that CPS shouldn't be called for every rash, but it was the perception that Sarah Henke gave on the stand that this was proof of abuse.

It would be proof of neglect. It's sort of heads we win, tails you lose. An untreated rash is neglect, a treated rash is a felony charge.

Alinusara10

kbp said...

PERJURY

We know what the jury thought of it. Imagine what it does to a witness that has committed perjury when they have pretrial statements and conflicting or questionable testimony in a criminal case that will follow with depositions and then new testimony in a civil case in which the judge is not ruling to cover for you in.

IOW;
"Were you lying then or are you lying now?"

Kaye said...

Today in Catoosa Cty, another woman was charged with child molestation. Despite all the attention that was focused on Tonya Craft's criminal trial, and the outcry of many in the community to the attempted railroad job, there are many people more than happy to declare this woman guilty based simply on the allegations. Just read all of the comments on WRCB's and Newschannel 9's Facebook postings and you'll see what I mean.

Making changes within the LMJC will be a cake walk compared to making changes with the mindset of "guilty until proven innocent" in our current society.

Sad.

William L. Anderson said...

I read the story on the Channel 3 website about the woman's arrest, and the scenario is much more believable than what we saw in Tonya's case. Furthermore, there are ways to get evidence that would involve standard police work.

Nonetheless, I am with Kaye in that I would like to know a lot more about this until forming an opinion and automatically declaring her guilty. There is too much presumption of guilt already.

I also am interested in seeing the behavior of the police and prosecutors in this case.

Anonymous said...

Joal and Sarah have abused these children and no one in the courts have seemed to do anything about this. There was no proof against Tonya and her whole life has been altered but Sarah admits to showering and bathing with Tonya's daughter and NOTHING is done about this. Shame on the system for not protecting Tonya's children from these monsters!!!

Anonymous said...

Sarah is disgusting! I saw her facebook before she got rid of it. If nothing was inappropriate with it why would it suddenly disappear? She is delusional to present herself as Tonya's childrens mother. Wait until she has this child and realizes what she has been a willing participant in. I hope she cannot sleep at night and gets just what is coming to her!!

Anonymous said...

Joal has been a known ladies man in the Chattanooga area. He even hit on me just one year ago. He told me he was a single father who just needed some companionship. Now correct me if I am wrong but Joal has been married to Sarah for at least 3 years. He is a slime ball and I have met so many people that say the same thing. I pray his past will finally come back to haunt him!!

Anonymous said...

I saw Tonya out one night eating with her current husband. My wife and I paid for their meal because of the awful ordeal they have gone through. Also, I felt bad because Joal had an affair with my ex-wife while he was married to Tonya. When I told Tonya this she was gracious and seemed to have no anger toward this homewrecker - Joal Henke. Who is he sleeping with now? Maybe the girl living up the street that he has already had an affair with before. Sarah needs to get a clue! Now she is having his child. Tragic!!!! But she is not ignorant and she deserves what is coming to her. I will never go to PARK RIDGE HOSPITAL because I would never want anyone so incompetent to be my nurse!!

Anonymous said...

I googled Joal's name and "world class athlete" did not show up!! Look at his page on Keller Williams and see how arrogant he is! Let's take a poll on how many women - an MEN - Joal has slept with in Chattanooga and that might be interesting!!

Anonymous said...

VOTE KNOWLES OUT OF OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYONE THAT SUPPORTS JOAL IS OUT IN MY BOOK!!!

Brenda said...

Actually, he seemed very cozy to that girl at Westview while attending one of his daughter's school functions.

Anonymous said...

I have known Tonya for years and this whole thing is awful! Joal has always been a backstabbing, womanizing sleeze that does not care about anyone but himself. Everyone call Keller Williams and report his lack of character and honesty to them : http://www.tn.gov/commerce/boards/trec/complaint.shtml
This is the email to complain about a real estate agent. Please write in to this!!!

Anonymous said...

Joal Henke is a 'world class ass', a liar,a homewrecker, an egotistical, narcissistic manipulator. Hope I didn't leave anything out. I have been before Judge Williams myself. She is by NO MEANS to be played by Mr Stenke. She KNOWS bull$hi+ when she hears it.She knows he and Sara have both participated in the brainwashing of Tonya's 2 children.I feel certain she will do the right thing FOR TONYA'S CHILDREN and make sure they are placed in a safe, secure, and truly loving home.

Anonymous said...

Please call the Park Ridge Hospital in Chattanooga Tn and report that you will not go to this hospital as long as Sarah Henke is employeed there. I live in Chattanooga Tn and I will go to any available hospital as long as Sarah is not there!!http://www.parkridgemedicalcenter.com/PhoneDir.asp Login to this site and you have all numbers to Parkridge!! We can make a difference!! No one with such low morals should be treating patients.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget Joal. I went to High School with him and it seems the old saying that a leapord does not change his spots applies with him. This is a disgusting display of his arrogance. I wish I could purchase Joal for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth and I would be wealthy beyond belief. I have met Tonya and Joal is not even worthy of the mother she was, is, and will be to their children. Shame on him!!!

Anonymous said...

I will just add something from someone that does not know either parties. Everything Joal seems to "say" never has any documentation or witnesses. Tonya seems to have her "ducks in a row" and I would not want to mess with someone as educated and passionate as Tonya. Joal has seemed to "bite off more that he can chew" and I have no doubt Tonya is working overtime to put those "nails in his grave". Kudos to Tonya and if you ever need any help in your law practice please let me know!!

Anonymous said...

I have contacted Tonya with some very good information so Joal can sit back and wish he would have not been so involved in this. Tonya nailed him in the divorce and this in no different: her children are her main goal. I WOULD NOT WANT TO GO UP AGAINST TONYA CRAFT!!

Anonymous said...

Nobody talks to the media before there is a trial. Tonya did because she was innocent and she is fighting for her children. Tonya knows it is inappropriate for a child to shower/bathe with a step parent and be present when shaving of a vaginal area is taking place. It seems like Joal wants to Sarah to shave her vaginal area because he likes females prior to puberty. It will be shown in the final hearing that Joal has past inappropriate behavior with children well underage. What a scum!!

Anonymous said...

Joal is a lying, conniving, S.O.B.! As far as backgrounds go, his should be looked into as a child molester! I wonder what his background has to hide! He obviously likes girls half his age...he obviously knows about his Sarah shaving her privates with HIS OWN DAUGHTER in the shower...Folks, that is NOT NORMAL! I am sure he will come up with some BS story about he did not know...Sarah if I were you, I would get out while I could. If you do not, you are just as sick in the head as Joal is and you two deserve each other. By the way Sarah, is Joal still screwing around you? I might want to find that out before that baby is born!

SSATRMS said...

I am sorry, I cannot get over the whole "shaving the pubic area while a child is watching", That is FREAKIN DISGUSTING!!!! Sarah, what the hell is wrong with you??? I have a 6 year old niece...she is my flesh and blood and I would not think of even getting in the shower with her. You are seriously going to have a baby of your own....DANG! That is scary...very very scary. I hope Judge Williams realizes what danger these two children are actually in living with Joal and Sarah. Should someone go ahead and contact DFACS about Joal and Sarah's unborn child?

Lame said...

I just read the thing about the woman arrested for sex with the teenage boy. I can just see Buzz Franklin rubbing his hands together as does a 10 year old boy about to dive into a piece of chocolate cake. "See, I told you! I told you! This decision has caused the pedos to come out of the woodwork and have sex with children because now they know they can get away with it." I'm having a prophetic vision that at some point in the very near future someone in either the prosecutor's office of sherreeeef's dept will come out and say something to that effect. Just wait!

As per my comment about the 9th circuit court, you were talking about the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, right? If so, then that's who I was also talking about. That is the circuit dealing with surprise, surprise the west coast. Only the most liberal, activist judges get appointed there. They have been the most out of line with SCOTUS in their activist rulings, not to mention out of line with the rest of the country, out of line with history, out of line with all reason and logic. As for their appointment to SCOTUS, Anthony Kennedy came from there. He's not the most liberal justice on the Court, but he wrote the decision on the landmark case that basically said that the government can take away your privately owned land and then give it to a corporation to develop as part of eminent domain, because the government's earning of tax revenue on the developed land is more important than your INALIENABLE RIGHT to private property.

eagle1 said...

I am waiting to see what Thurbert Baker does regarding Tonya's trial.
For now there is NO WAY I will vote for him, because he has done NOTHING.. He is not Governor material.
I do wonder is all the elected officials involved with this case understand that the passion around this will result in lost votes.
TN & GA politicians need to wake up.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Anderson:
You said,
"Don't forget that the leader of the Emergent Movement, Brian McLaren, already has called for a "New Kind of Christianity" in which all of the historical Christian doctrines are trashed for some New Age stuff. I guess that the way that the Eastwood leadership handled the Tonya Craft case and its aftermath pretty much tells me that they already have decided that Truth is a lie, and a lie is Truth."

I'm sorry, I do not follow you here. There were people of all faiths, and none at all, who supported justice for Tonya, and there were lots of "conservative evangelical Christians" who were out to get her. Are you sure that Tonya's cause is a theological debate?

Anonymous said...

No matter what faith one is ... truth is truth is truth!! A lie is a lie is a lie! Joal and Sarah have shown not one ounce of honesty at the detriment of Tonya's children. Joal and Sarah have shown their willingness to lie to hurt others . . . so what are they doing daily to two children that should NOT be in that home! The psychological damage done at the hands of Sarah and Joal will one day come to light and I would not want to answer for what they will face. Keep fighting Tonya and you WILL prevail - the truth always does!

Anonymous said...

Joal slept with my ex-wife also - HOW MANY OTHERS ARE THERE??!!!

Lame said...

I will say this about Brian McLaren, he may be wrong about many things, but he was right in saying that dispensationalism is not biblical.

Anonymous said...

2:41, there are plenty!!! He is in the same category at Wilt Chamberlain. Someone said on here about him trying to get in her britches a year ago, playing the "I just want companionship" card, he tried the same thing with me 4 years ago. He reminds me of Scott Peterson & I think is very capable of doing the same things he did to save his ass or money. He's scum & anyone with half a brain realizes it. Notice, most of his successful conquests are always younger. I was in my mid 30's & he wasn't getting his crap past me. Tonya was younger when she married him & was "charmed" by him. Most of us women have had it happen at least once. Then we try to learn the lesson to stay away from charming men, as they are usually hiding their scumbag side. Thankfully she did see it & married a wonderful man in David. I just believe her children were meant to be, so she can chalk that up to God's purpose. She loves them very dearly and will prevail. Judge Williams is being very careful to follow the letter of the law & we all must be patient.

Dr. Anderson, you are right on with your assessment of Eastwood. It is not a Bible-based church. I have no problem whatsoever with non-denominational churches, but Eastwood is more along the lines of free living & no accountablity. I have a few friends who checked it out & wanted to know how the Bible could not be used as the basic tool of teaching. It's more like story time at the library as one friend told me. They will go away eventually. Also, it very much reminded them of a "church" a fellow classmate formed after we graduated. No seminary teachings, nothing, just some drunken a-hole who formed a "church". He is now divorcing wife #4. We all considered it more of a cult rather than a church. Long story, but whew, there are some doozies. Eastwood is the same thing. Follow me, we will lead you to the light.....UGH!

Another point I want to hit on is the shaving. First of all, no step-mother (especially an every other weekend one) should be bathing or teaching to bathe a child. She has a father, her blood, but the main point is that she knew how to bathe on her own. I'm a clean shaver, always have been. I do it for my comfort & was "ahead of the times" in doing so. I also have a daughter. She has NEVER seen me shave, EVER!!!! That is personal & not for her to see. I have no problem with nudity in front of your same sex children, but they should be your children. I can't stand Sarah, but as far as her shaving preference, it's just what some people prefer. Her doing it frontwards, backwards or sideways in front of that child, is absolutely disgusting & wrong. I know the details in shaving & there is no way in hell my child would ever see that.

Lame, I totally have to disagree with the shaving of legs. You can shave your legs without being nude or in the shower. When my daughter was young, she saw me shave my legs, but never my private areas. I would say, "it's mommy's time for private shower time." She is 16 now & knows that's what I was doing, but that's because she's smart & knows more about the body now. As far as John L goes, shaving your face & shaving your privates are sooooooooooooooooooooo different. I'm pretty open about my body, but those 2 areas do not even compare.

Just needed to vent!

Anonymous said...

2:41, there are plenty!!! He is in the same category at Wilt Chamberlain. Someone said on here about him trying to get in her britches a year ago, playing the "I just want companionship" card, he tried the same thing with me 4 years ago. He reminds me of Scott Peterson & I think is very capable of doing the same things he did to save his ass or money. He's scum & anyone with half a brain realizes it. Notice, most of his successful conquests are always younger. I was in my mid 30's & he wasn't getting his crap past me. Tonya was younger when she married him & was "charmed" by him. Most of us women have had it happen at least once. Then we try to learn the lesson to stay away from charming men, as they are usually hiding their scumbag side. Thankfully she did see it & married a wonderful man in David. I just believe her children were meant to be, so she can chalk that up to God's purpose. She loves them very dearly and will prevail. Judge Williams is being very careful to follow the letter of the law & we all must be patient.

Dr. Anderson, you are right on with your assessment of Eastwood. It is not a Bible-based church. I have no problem whatsoever with non-denominational churches, but Eastwood is more along the lines of free living & no accountablity. I have a few friends who checked it out & wanted to know how the Bible could not be used as the basic tool of teaching. It's more like story time at the library as one friend told me. They will go away eventually. Also, it very much reminded them of a "church" a fellow classmate formed after we graduated. No seminary teachings, nothing, just some drunken a-hole who formed a "church". He is now divorcing wife #4. We all considered it more of a cult rather than a church. Long story, but whew, there are some doozies. Eastwood is the same thing. Follow me, we will lead you to the light.....UGH!

Another point I want to hit on is the shaving. First of all, no step-mother (especially an every other weekend one) should be bathing or teaching to bathe a child. She has a father, her blood, but the main point is that she knew how to bathe on her own. I'm a clean shaver, always have been. I do it for my comfort & was "ahead of the times" in doing so. I also have a daughter. She has NEVER seen me shave, EVER!!!! That is personal & not for her to see. I have no problem with nudity in front of your same sex children, but they should be your children. I can't stand Sarah, but as far as her shaving preference, it's just what some people prefer. Her doing it frontwards, backwards or sideways in front of that child, is absolutely disgusting & wrong. I know the details in shaving & there is no way in hell my child would ever see that.

Lame, I totally have to disagree with the shaving of legs. You can shave your legs without being nude or in the shower. When my daughter was young, she saw me shave my legs, but never my private areas. I would say, "it's mommy's time for private shower time." She is 16 now & knows that's what I was doing, but that's because she's smart & knows more about the body now. As far as John L goes, shaving your face & shaving your privates are sooooooooooooooooooooo different. I'm pretty open about my body, but those 2 areas do not even compare.

Just needed to vent!

Anonymous said...

have no idea why that posted twice! sorry!

Anonymous said...

Sarah,

Okay, so you're gonna "turn your back" and bend down to shave your privates "privately".... That's fine and dandy, but the child doesn't need to be exposed to your anal area either!

William L. Anderson said...

Wow! The comments are coming fast and furious! No, I was not attacking other faiths so much as I was pointing out that the people at Eastwood are not exactly eager to deal with truth, and especially the lack of veracity by their own members.

Sorry about the fact that Joal slept with a commentor's ex-wife. I have a feeling that the guy has been around (and around and around).

Anonymous said...

Joal Henke slept with my ex-husband!!!

Anonymous said...

Dr. Anderson, I apologize for my comment at 2:02 PM above. I misunderstood what you were getting at. If, indeed, this church is covering up for perjury, they should be held accountable, regardless of what their denominational label or theological statement is.

gossip girl said...

i have often heard that men who are trying very hard to hide the fact that they are gay often behave such as joal henke behaves (wanting to have sex with every female who enter his line of sight).
and then we have the fact that joal henke is the prettiest little straight boy i've ever seen.
i am convinced now more than ever that joal henke is gay. check out how many gay friends he has on facebook. omg...he's gay. joal henke is gay.
i feel like i just placed the last piece in a huge puzzle i have worked on for years.
if i were currently having sex with joal henke...or if i EVER had sex with joal henke, i would RUN! to the doctor's office and get checked for AIDS and any other disease that can occur from such a lifestyle as he has lived.
sad. so sad. he had potential to be someone great. and he has failed everyone who has ever been in his life. sad that he has failed the One who created him and gave him life.

Anonymous said...

So is anyone else wondering why Joal was taking showers with his son? Anyone else wondering why he was in the bathroom while Sarah was showering with his daughter? Anyone wondering why his wife (who is half his age) shaves her pubic hair to look like pre pubescent girl?
Would the real child molester please stand up?
That's you Joal Henke and we all know it

Anonymous said...

Joal..... a world class athlete...I don't think so. He is a WORLD CLASS asshole. Someone posted about their parents having sayings growing up...I was always told if you mess with crap you will get it on you and I'm sorry Tonya did.

David said...

I slept with Joal too