The Hazzard affair was especially egregious. Even though Georgia law did not require the defense to prepare a summary of Dr. Hazzard's testimony, the defense did it anyway. However, Gregor told the court that the prosecution never received the documents, which was a bald-faced lie, so he demanded that she be totally disqualified from testifying. (You might recall that two nights ago, I predicted that the Dishonest Duo would try to pull this kind of trick, and I was right.)
Unfortunately, it gets worse, and you can read how Gregor and Arnt sent a SWAT team to Dr. Hazzard's office in Atlanta, which trashed her office and brutalized her and her clients. All in a day's work I guess. (The Chattanoogan article by Dennis Norwood also does a great job in laying out the testimony that Dr. Hazzard WAS permitted to give.)
And, it gets even better (or worse, depending on your viewpoint). While "House of Horrors" did not altogether disqualify her testimony, he DID rule that she COULD NOT tell the jury anything about her interview with the children of Tonya Craft, because the prosecutors did not want Dr. Hazzard to say what she had concluded: She saw NO signs of sexual abuse with either of them.
House's reasoning? Such testimony, he declared, would be hearsay. Now, this is rich, very rich. Almost ALL of the "expert" witness testimony for the prosecution has been hearsay, and House has allowed ALL of it to be entered into the record. Furthermore, there is a long record of testimony such as Dr. Hazzard was prepared to give being used in other courts, including in Georgia, but such testimony might have undermined the lies that the Dishonest Duo are trying to foist upon the jury, and, as we have seen time and again, House will allow NOTHING to get in the way of rigging a conviction.
This most likely was the most shameful moment in a very shameful trial. Furthermore, even someone like House, who observers to a person tell me that takes ALL of his instructions from Gregor and Arnt, must know that this trial is a train wreck, and that even if Ms. Craft is convicted, the guilty verdict certainly will be overturned. Moreover, no matter what happens, Brian House will be defined by this trial, and he never again will have an ounce of credibility as a judge.
As for Arnt and Gregor, I am announcing that I will be working for their disbarment. As the earlier post below demonstrates, their conduct over the past three weeks has demonstrated that they should not be entrusted with charging anyone with a crime, and it is obvious that they have obliterated the rules that are supposed to govern them.
I need to make it very clear: I am going to make it my mission in life to have these men disciplined and have their Georgia law licenses taken away. I may not succeed, but Christopher Arnt and Len Gregor are going to know that they are in a fight for their careers. They made the decision to trash the law and their profession, and now they are going to live with the consequences. [End Update]
As I survey the wreckage of the Tonya Craft trial, what with Judge Brian "House of Horrors" along with the Dishonest Duo of Facebook and The Man running the proceedings, it is time to step back and examine the conduct that so many of you have observed personally while sitting in that alleged courtroom. Today, I looked through the rules that prosecutors in Georgia are supposed to follow, and -- Surprise! -- the Dishonest Duo clearly believes that the rules exist for them to break.
I will list each rule and its contents, and then you, dear reader, are free to make your own judgments. Those who actually have entered the House of Horrors and seen the proceedings for yourself might be the most authoritative in interpreting the rules and the actions of the Dishonest Duo.
Rule 3.3:
(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly:
(1) make a false statement of material fact or law to a tribunal;
(2) fail to disclose a material fact to a tribunal when disclosure is necessary to avoid assisting a criminal or fraudulent act by the client;
(4) offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false. If a lawyer has offered material evidence and comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures.
4(d) In an ex parte proceeding, other than grand jury proceedings, a lawyer shall inform the tribunal of all material facts known to the lawyer that the lawyer reasonably believes are necessary to enable the tribunal to make an informed decision, whether or not the facts are adverse.
The maximum penalty for a violation of this Rule is disbarment.
Rule 3.4:
A lawyer shall not:
(a) unlawfully obstruct another party's access to evidence or unlawfully alter, destroy or conceal a document or other material having potential evidentiary value. A lawyer shall not counsel or assist another person to do any such act;
(b) (1) falsify evidence;
(2) counsel or assist a witness to testify falsely;
The maximum penalty for a violation of this Rule is disbarment.
Rule 3.5:
A lawyer shall not, without regard to whether the lawyer represents a client in the matter:
(a) seek to influence a judge, juror, prospective juror or other official by means prohibited by law;
(b) communicate ex parte with such a person except as permitted by law; or
(c) engage in conduct intended to disrupt a tribunal.
The maximum penalty for a violation of part (a) of this Rule is disbarment. The maximum penalty for a violation of part (b) or part (c) of this Rule is a public reprimand.
I have covered Rules 3.6 and Rules 3.8 here, and Chris Arnt's Facebook page and his public comments about Tonya Craft's "guilt" are prima facae evidence of his having violated those two rules, which carry a maximum penalty of public reprimand.
The more serious alleged violations come in the breaking of Rules 3.3, 3.4, and 3.5. I believe that both Arnt and Gregor have suborned perjury, and then they covered it up when they prevented the defense from entering the on-line resume of Sandra Lamb's child after Lamb testified that the girl had not received acting lessons.
Furthermore, as I have said many times, the testimony of both Suzi Thorne and Tim Deal clearly was perjured. (Yeah, investigators after hitting the "mother lode" of "disclosures" "just forget" to memorialize the moment. Right.)
Then there is the issue about their "Animal House" behavior in the courtroom. A number of people who have attended have contacted me and told me their observations. Unlike the "testimony" created by the prosecution, these accusations really are consistent. Here are some accounts:
I sat in court yesterday afternoon and this morning. I am completely amazed at how Judge House, the prosecutors, and Det. Deal act in court. I saw on many occasions the Judge making faces at "The Man and Facebook." He seems to be getting all of his cues from them. I also witnessed today, Det. Deal roll his eyes at people in the audience(seated behind the prosecution) as the Defense was fighting to get in Dr. Hazzards testimony. During this time, House also reprimanded Dr. Lorendos(sp??) for raising his voice. Yet, when "The Man" slammed a document down accusing the defense of showboating in front of the jury, no action or reprimand from the judge(no big surprise). It is so very evident(especially as you seat in the court room) that House is aligned with these two and they will stop at nothing to get a conviction!! One other interesting observation. The person that I was with also noticed that the baliffs stare down the defense side of the audience. It is as if they are looking for a reason to throw you out!!And this:
Gregor and Aren't (my own joke) honestly acted like children -- if they were my son I'd have gone up and pulled him up by his ears and told him to stop acting like an idiot. As the defense questioned a Mr. Walker on the stand, the two of them couldn't sit still. On purpose, of course, they acted like 12 year olds -- they'd put their heads in their hands and shake them, they'd put their arms behind their heads and sigh -- they were like baby monkeys!And then this:
I was in court today and was able to see this mockery of a trial for myself...I am appalled! No need for a judge because the DA is definitely running the show. Honestly, the judge looks at them everytime just before he overrules the defense team! What are they so afraid of...the defense wants to hear the opinion of a real expert...with credentials...and they continuously object. Mr. Deal was seen rolling his eyes to the prosecutions supporters...the DA Slamming a paper down in front of defense attorney...and House just sits there. He actually looks annoyed to even be there. Nothing but praise for the defense team...they never let this outlandish behavior rattle them.While it is true that Brian House is supposed to be in charge, nonetheless Arnt and Gregor are fully aware of the rules of conduct for their office. That they consider those rules to be beneath them is not an excuse for their behavior and their bullying.
Important: Some of you who have attended these proceedings and witnessed this misconduct can take out sworn statements and have them notarized. I can get more information about this. The reason I am asking is that I plan to present the Georgia State Bar with this evidence of misconduct. Obviously, that would place you in a position of possibly having to testify against a prosecutor, should the Bar take these complaints seriously.
I can understand why some people might not want to become involved, especially given the ordeal you have faced at the courthouse already. Nonetheless, people who are interested in having sworn statements made can email me.
98 comments:
I was in the courtroom the day that the Facebook page was entered. That was the same day that the mysterious note from the stepmom appeared. If either of those two things will help I will get a statement made.
Great! Thanks for your help. Email me a statement and we can go from there!
My concern is this, if/when these two men are called to answer for their conduct, what is to prevent them from feigning ignorance?
We have already seen what they are capable of up to this point.
Is there hard evidence that would force the hands of their colleagues in Atlanta?
Judicial Complaint Form
This complaint form is only for a judge.
Few, if ant, are ever called to testify or give statements as a result of filing a complaint on a judge or attorney.
Most is handled through the investigation the bar or committee takes care of.
Sorry, that should read "Few, if any..."
Also, most all is on record in video in this case.
Bill, I sure do want to thank you for getting me out of my shell and coming forward. I usually rant and rave to my family but otherwise keep silent. But one thing is bothering me, one of the comments this week. The poster said Herbert 'Buzz' Franklin didn't want to pursue this case and either Gegor or Arnt went ahead and did something that made it go forward while DA was on vacation. Couldn't the DA have stopped even then? Why, if he didn't want to pursue because he thought it had no merit, hasn't he done anything to stop this madness? Very puzzling.
I've never seen a judge disallow testimony due to an error caused by an officer of the court. I have a question. From the reporting I've seen on this, the judge has not sustained a single defense motion or overruled a single prosecution motion.
Has anyone who has been in court seen the judge rule ONCE in favor of the defense?
I doubt the jury will find her guilty, but if they do, even if Craft did EVERYthing they allege she did, the judge's behavior in this case will get the verdict tossed within twenty seconds of the appelate judge reading the first paragraph of the court's proceedings.
Lame, I've been there and truly, the only time I've ever really seen him rule for the defense is only after he looks at the prosecution and the prosecution does a "mia cuplpa" of sorts. Even that is rare. Otherwise, MAYBE on something incredibly minor, but no, he never rules for the defense. It is clearly 99% prosecution and maybe 1% defense (if that.)
I have a friend at DA Buzz Franklin's office in Lafayette. She says they have been bombarded with calls not necessarily about Tonya being on trial but the behavior of "The Man" and "Facebook". She said Buzz seems displeased with the Dishonest Duo based on the heat he is getting from the public. Call Buzz's office Monday and keep the pressure up. Let him know you do not appreciate the unprofessional behavior of his staff.
P.S. Apparently, people are most disgusted with the name calling and slander tactics.
If anyone knows or has contact with any of the Jury members, consider directing them to fija.org where they can learn about their rights as jurors.
Also, consider handing out pamphlets and brochures around the courthouse available from fija.org as a peaceful protest.
Educate them so they are not intimidated by narcissist court employees or evil ones posing as victim's parents...
I was in court today for the freak show that was Gregor. I actually finally just got up and left. House did act completely annoyed most of the day. The prosecution side of the gallery is getting younger and younger and frankly they don't understand to hold the door as it closes so that it doesn't make noise etc. It was getting on my nerves too. Once school let out, I guess they came to daycare. House has ZERO sense of humor and sits like a robot waiting on his instructions. If he'd crack a damn smile every once in a while or show an expression at all, he might not be so hated (well, doubt that, but you know - he might at least seem human) On the defense side there have been so many reprimands for just natural things (like a lady was scratching her head the other day and warned if she did not stop gesturing to the jury she'd be asked to leave. Another had a logo on his shirt and was told to turn it inside out - this is the 2nd time this has happened. Wearing sunglasses on top of your head is a cardinal sin etc.) A woman is thrown out for gasping? Another threatened because her head itched? She was told she was signaling the jury. Please. we're afraid to laugh when everyone else does or they threaten the media. Gregor is SO concerned with his 15 minutes of fame that he is desperate to get attention. He screams, slams things down, throws tantrums when Dr. Larandos is doing a GOOD examination and he is upset he isn't getting any attention. That is what it boils down to really. HE wants to have the spotlight and his time in the sun has been minimized and he wants to wrap this up so he can railroad the next person who can't afford GOOD lawyers. I thought it was gross misconduct (or at least disgustingly unprofessional) to watch Len Gregor parade around openly mocking Doc's mannerisms. The blog yesterday nailed it - they act like a bunch of bully jocks. Well, House acts more like their girl cheerleader, but Arnt and Gregor act like total bullies in the courtroom. Dr. Larandos (and Gregor REFUSES to call him DR when he has not 1 but 2 PhD's) asked a series of questions worded a specific way, but once it got to something genius didn't like - he objected for hearsay. It was the SAME form of question! Yesterday, Clancy asked the IDENTICAL question and was stopped because all of the sudden it was irrelevant - it was THEIR point. they sit slack in their seats, huff and puff and throw their arms up behind their heads in exasperation like they're bored. It was their case. If they are bored with it, then let Tonya go and get to catching REAL criminals. I will never serve on a jury (and once I express my opinion in jury selection, I don't think that will be a problem) and I will NEVER trust in our system again.
I also heard today that Jerry McDonald was in the courtroom a couple of days prior to testifying. Is this true or was it his brother maybe? From a VERY long distance they sort of resemble.
I would LOVE to give a sworn statement and help take these fools down.
Funny how Gregor wants to discredit a psychologist, yet in my son's case he was ready to take the word of a nurse as to my son's behavior, a person not remotely a psychologist.
Rule 3.3:
(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly:
(1) make a false statement of material fact or law to a tribunal;
Prosecution "I got the email but not the attachment" even tho it is on file with the court as received.
(2) fail to disclose a material fact to a tribunal when disclosure is necessary to avoid assisting a criminal or fraudulent act by the client;
(4) offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false. If a lawyer has offered material evidence and comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures.
Testimony by one mother who denied Tonya Craft ever signed a power application for her. Application obtained by defense shows woman's signature and Tonya Crafts. Prosecution argues successfully against admitting it to show perjury by prosecution witness.
Lamb testifies her daughter never took acting classes. Resume obtained by defense (available online btw) which lists many classes daughter has taken. Prosecution argues successfully to block introduction of this into evidence to show perjury. Judge's daughter attends same school, common knowledge about child's acting classes.
4(d) In an ex parte proceeding, other than grand jury proceedings, a lawyer shall inform the tribunal of all material facts known to the lawyer that the lawyer reasonably believes are necessary to enable the tribunal to make an informed decision, whether or not the facts are adverse.
Facebook page. A public page for thousands to see no less.
The maximum penalty for a violation of this Rule is disbarment.
Rule 3.4:
A lawyer shall not:
(a) unlawfully obstruct another party's access to evidence or unlawfully alter, destroy or conceal a document or other material having potential evidentiary value. A lawyer shall not counsel or assist another person to do any such act;
(b) (1) falsify evidence;
(2) counsel or assist a witness to testify falsely;
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The maximum penalty for a violation of this Rule is disbarment.
Rule 3.5:
A lawyer shall not, without regard to whether the lawyer represents a client in the matter:
(a) seek to influence a judge, juror, prospective juror or other official by means prohibited by law;
Seen Leaving with the judge (not just following out a door). Conduct in court to influence jurors.
(b) communicate ex parte with such a person except as permitted by law; or
Facebook page
(c) engage in conduct intended to disrupt a tribunal.
Facebook page
The maximum penalty for a violation of part (a) of this Rule is disbarment. The maximum penalty for a violation of part (b) or part (c) of this Rule is a public reprimand.
Keeping It Real.... I agree with almost everything you have said. The only thing that I would disagree with is about the turning of the shirt inside out. It is standard not to have any writing on clothing while in the courthouse. My husband and I went to his brothers divorce and he had to turn his shirt inside out. His shirt only had a small logo on the pocket.
http://apublicdefender.com/2010/04/29/a-witchhunt-by-men-who-molest-the-law/
http://criminaljustice.change.org/blog/view/is_the_tide_turning_in_georgias_child_molestation_case
What about the woman who was not allowed in the courtroom for having open toed shoes on???
@ Anon 5:53, I have been to court twice with sandals (open toed) nothing was said to me. They seem to pick and choose at random what "rules" they want to enforce for the day.
Open toed shoes doesn't make sense. Nor do any of the other rules. It's so sad this trial has never really been about Tonya, except to punish her for having the guts to stand up to a bunch of bullies, but about small children in adult bodies showing everyone who's boss. My prayers for Tonya are going out every minute of every day. The Lord surely must be bombarded by all the people calling for his invention in this travesty. Surely, some good will come soon. But I firmly believe in Footprints in the Sand by Mary Stevenson. I've put the poem below, so we can remember the Lord is already walking beside Tonya Craft, carrying her when her burden is the hardest.
One night I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord.
Many scenes from my life flashed across the sky.
In each scene I noticed footprints in the sand.
Sometimes there were two sets of footprints,
other times there were one set of footprints.
This bothered me because I noticed
that during the low periods of my life,
when I was suffering from
anguish, sorrow or defeat,
I could see only one set of footprints.
So I said to the Lord,
"You promised me Lord,
that if I followed you,
you would walk with me always.
But I have noticed that during
the most trying periods of my life
there have only been one
set of footprints in the sand.
Why, when I needed you most,
you have not been there for me?"
The Lord replied,
"The times when you have
seen only one set of footprints in the sand,
is when I carried you."
Denise C. said...
I was in the courtroom the day that the Facebook page was entered. That was the same day that the mysterious note from the stepmom appeared. If either of those two things will help I will get a statement made.
April 30, 2010 4:16 PM
(1) Denise, this is the first I have heard of the Facebook page being brought up in court. Can you elaborate?
(2) I wore flip-flops to court today. No one seemed to care. The only one who stared was Sandra Lamb's son, but he wasn't staring at my feet.
Anon 5:08 I doubt you know anyone in the DA's office. I guess you all missed Melydia's report the other day when she said the defense was having a difficult time because one attorney was from out of state and the other two practice primarily in civil court. I'm sure however you will be able to explain away their lack of knowledge regarding rules of court.
Sure, when Holly Kittle was testifying, the defense introduced the Facebook page of both Arnt and Gregor. The defense questioned Kittle about her "liking" of Arnt's status message and being a friend of Gregors. Prosecution tried to object but amazingly, House allowed it. The defense had to black out the other two comments on the Arnt's page. Kittle got very defensive and angry at this line of questioning. The aim of the defense was to show that Kittle was biased in her testimony by having the relationships with both of the prosecutors.
Anon 5:08... I just and checked the websites for all 3 lawyers office. According to their websites they all cover criminal law. Dr. Demosthenes Lorandos specializes in sexual assault and child porn.
thank you, Denise. I did hear about that. I thought you were speaking of the Truth for Tonya Facebook group.
KeepingItReal, THANKS for this information.
"Gregor is SO concerned with his 15 minutes of fame that he is desperate to get attention. He screams, slams things down, throws tantrums when Dr. Larandos is doing a GOOD examination . . ."
Actually, this might be a deliberate tactic designed to disrupt Dr. Larandos' examination. Experienced lawyers will do things like this to distract the jury or disrupt the other side if they can get away with it. In a real courtroom, one with a genuine judge who serves as a referee and NOT as part of the persecution team, this sort of behavior is dealt with quickly, severely if necessary. In this circus, it is rewarded.
Denise,
What mysterious note from Stepmother?
This is the first I have heard of that.
Denise - I was not aware of that about the logos etc. I thought as long as it wasn't something offensive it was okay. I guess I'm lucky I haven't worn anything like that. :) I can say that I have worn flip flops almost every day simply because it is easier for them to see I am not hiding any bad. You just never know when you walk into the courtroom. I wore yellow yesterday (not really meaning anything by it) and several people commented on it. I am surprised that the judge hasn't blocked yellow for "conspiracy" or who knows what. HAHA!
Have a good weekend. I'm going to TRY to think happy thoughts this weekend for my baby's birthday!
P.S. I heard there was a banquet last night and Sheri Wilson looked VERY insecure and oddly not a ot of people were rushing to speak to her. Strange huh?
7:58 I didn't say they didn't have any experience with criminal law. Larando's practices in another state and has no knowledge of the rules of court for Georgia. The other two like I described practice mostly in civil court. They have a limited knowledge of the rules of criminal court. This was reported by Melydia Clewell and McCracken Posten of Channel 3 in Chattanooga. Tonya fired the best attorney of the bunch before this trial picked up steam.
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i spoke to my attorney today, who is a well respected attorney in tennessee. he said, "brian house was an ass as an attorney, and he is an ass now that he's a judge."
i would love to see the campaign ads he used...
ask and ye shall receive
http://www.brianhouseforjudge.com/
To John Proctor:
A lawyer shall not, without regard to whether the lawyer represents a client in the matter:
(c) engage in conduct intended to disrupt a tribunal.
This carries only a reprimand, but if Gregor is found to have engaged in more serious conduct violations, then such actions would help get him disbarred, for it would show real malice in his actions.
As you can see in my update, I have put my cards on the table: I will actively work for the disbarment of Chris Arnt and Len Gregor. These men apparently never learned the meaning of the word "consequence." It is time they learn.
Kerwyn... The note from the stepmother was talked about the Friday before. The story is that the note was given to one of the "forensic interviewers" (haha). It was some sort of note about one of the little girls and what they said about the alleged abuse or something like that. When the defense had asked about it, the prosecution claimed to not know about it or have it. Amazingly that Monday morning, Arnt claimed to have went through all of his boxes of material over the weekend and just happen to have found it. AMAZING!!!
It was like magic.
Denise:
Yeah, this trial has been one deus ex machina after another! I hardly can wait for the prosecution's next trick.
These guys must have gone to Faber College for law school and lived at the Delta House!
I wish I could go Monday to see what is going to happen next, but I myself have gotten a jury summons. Luckily, not the same county but it is the same circuit. After learning so much from this trial, I am so nervous about going. This is the first time I have had jury duty.
Mr Anderson,
Wow! Your update was pretty pointed and strong. I believe you when you say that "it will be your mission in life" to get these men disbarred and/or sanctioned.
Someone needs to step up to the plate and do it, and I believe you are the man for the job. Please post anything that you need and I'm sure people will rally to your call.
We will be you hands and feet on the ground, just tell us what you need us to do.
These three men are the pure essence of evil. You can see it in their demeanor, facial expressions, and their hatred for the truth. I don't throw the word nazi around loosely, but these three men would have made Hitler proud.
I saw on CNN where the judge in the Casey Anthony case got booted (or had to recues himself) because of reading a speaking to a blogger. I think the judge was actually nice though (and the blogger sounded angry that the defense used his blog to get the judge thrown off the case) makes me wonder - Gregor speaks to us "Bloggers" often in his rants. If they are caught reading this are they in trouble (well, House in particular)? I guess I'm so used to the rules not applyig in his courtroom I never thought about if he should be reading things like this (I actually assumed he was on Twitter when the Today Show arrived because of the change in personality of Gregor - I figured he tipped him off) I really like to think he has multiple personality disorder, but just in case not haha!
Mr. Anderson, regarding putting Arnt and Gregor into the fight of their lives to try to save their sorry careers, YES YES YES!!!!! While I'm sure the look on their public face about this will be smug, inside they are starting to really get nervous, and I think it shows in the trial.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that is willing to help, so please keep us updated with specifically what we can do to further this goal of finally holding accountable those who have escaped consequences for their actions for far too long.
If you truly want change, you have to be willing to help fight the fight, not just pay it lip service. Tonya Craft gave the bully the first push when she defiantly stood up to them and refused to go along peacefully with her railroading and by doing so shocked the heck out of them I'm sure. Now it's time for others to do our part too.
Boys whose fathers never claimed them.
Pathetico.
I totally agree, BOYCOTT WILSON FUNERAL HOMES AND ANYTHING THAT THE LAMBS ARE INVOLVED WITH.
BOYCOTT WILSON FUNERAL HOMES AND IF YOU HAVE PREPAID FUNERALS TRANSFER THEM TO OTHER FUNERAL HOMES. SHERRY WILSON AND DEWAYNE WILSON SEE TO NOT BE HONEST PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH.
I'm sure that your Jury Duty is in Walker Co next week. I know some of the court officers that work for that county. Talked to 2 of them today, they are in no way in support of what is going on in Catoosa Co. I also know a couple of the baliffs, really sweet elderly couple. Hope you have a good week its kinda interesting the 1st time you are on jury duty.
This is a travesty, Dr. Anderson, Esquire. I mean, the defense has to follow the rules of evidence and the rules of criminal procedure, just like everyone else? I can't believe this. Thank you for your tireless work. I am going to boldly wear my open toed shoes to court Monday, and dare the bailiff to quote the portion of Georgia criminal procedure that disallows them.
I suspect the Terrible twins have already been chewed out by Buzz Franklin before this trial started, and they were certain they had it in the bag, so they told him they'd do it themselves. Now it doesn't look so good, and they probably have been told their tour of duty is up soon. Hence their behavior. If they lose their law license in Georgia, they lose it everywhere. Disbarment is reciprocal.
Hey Arnold, you are full of crap. Why is the prosecution following one set of rules and the defense another? Can you explain that Len, I mean Arnold?
Thanks Arnold, now you can go back to your Man/Boy love site...
I find you comments about Faber college funny Bill because Delta Tau Chi House came out on top in that movie as well. They faced Dean Vernon Wormer (aka Bill Anderson) who wanted to remove the Delta fraternity from campus due to repeated conduct violations. Delta came out on top in that movie as will the prosecution in this case. Keep preachin the hate Dean.
Dr. Anderson, Esquire. I'm not sure why I am getting such rude treatment here. I offer nothing but praise for you and your tireless work. Just because I pride myself in looking like Marlon Brando, you people mock me. I know nothing of this Man/Boy love of which you people speak.
I was in court today. I saw Len Gregor and Chris Arnt having an ex parte conversation with Judge Learned Hand. I suspect that you may need some such conversations yourself. I will send you a notarized statement. I will only charge $7650.00...plus lunch. I promise to wear loafers.
Gosh, Arnold, I don't know what to say. I mean, you argue so well, and you make such good points.
Of course, since the defense is held to rules that do not even match the rules of evidence, while the prosecution has no rules at all, I'm not sure what you mean. However, you will look good in those open-toed shoes.
***If you need assistance understanding the following statute, I suggest you contact a licensed attorney. Preferably one licensed in the State of Gergia who did not attend the Nashville School of Law.Oh wait! Someone who attended the Nashville School of Law can't get licensed in Georgia. Never mind.***
O.C.G.A. § 24-3-16. Statements made by child under age of 14 years describing acts of sexual contact or physical abuse
A statement made by a child under the age of 14 years describing any act of sexual contact or physical abuse performed with or on the child by another or performed with or on another in the presence of the child is admissible in evidence by the testimony of the person or persons to whom made if the child is available to testify in the proceedings and the court finds that the circumstances of the statement provide sufficient indicia of reliability.
Anon 7:53 You have no idea who I am. I really do not care if you want to believe it or not. Just wait until this is over and the proof of what I have said and more will come out when it comes to the Dishonest Duo.
I can't believe you blocked me!
Meet me at the Sizzler!
Anon 10:33:
What, exactly, is the relevance of your comment?
Arnold if you were blocked, you wouldn't be able to post that you were blocked...
Timmy, is that you?
Anonymous 10:49:
I thought my comment had probative value.
Anon 10:33, I believe the operative statement in that statute is "if [...] the court finds that the circumstances of the statement provide sufficient indicia of reliability". Need I say more?
Oh sorry, I'm not a licensed attorney in the State of Georgia. In fact, I didn't even attend the Nashville School of Law! Oh dear...
By the way, "Arnold Schoen", I don't think you'll find much lulz here. This is, in fact, srs bizness.
@7:53
I saw that post by Melydia and when it was posted that the attorneys lacked experience in local traditions, I thought they were insinuating that the attorneys didn't know to pass the magic envelopes to the judge!
Yes it is, anonymous 11:02. Yes it is!
Oh, and by the way, the sexpert witness was attempting to tender hearsay testimony that the girls were not molested or abused. I'm going to sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last now, instead of go to law school.
Gee, 11:16. What about Suzi Thorne's testimony? That was hearsay, but since Hazzard has only a Ph.D. and is well-known and Thorne is a year away from getting her on-line degree with Kaplan University, I am sure you believe she should be able to give hearsay testimony.
You know, I hope someday you are on trial and get the same treatment. No doubt, you would be howling.
If you want to support bullies and women haters, then go to the Facebook pages of Arnt and Gregor. Oh, I forgot, they took them down. Gee. Wonder why.
The Man must be in for the evening...
Does any one there care about how the proc'a behavior reflects on the community?
Is there any that care this case mimics the Smokey and the Bandit movies?
Wow... is all I can say.
You know what's sad is that all of his previous convictions are now fair game for scrutiny, for example:
http://teachertrash.blogspot.com/2007/03/tunnel-hill-georgia.html
Taking a plea is so overused and commonplace in today's courts. What really sucks is that with all the previous cases done with Gregor representing the state is that one would never know from case to the other, which was a legitimate and justified conviction and which was not.
Check out the bold:
http://teachertrash.blogspot.com/2007/03/tunnel-hill-georgia.html
[Assistant District Attorney Len] Gregor said the state agreed to accept the guilty plea to lesser charges, in part, to keep the victim from having to testify at trial.
He said the plea guaranteed an admission of guilt from the man who had received rousing support from some in the community who did not believe the charges.
"(The state) basically had a situation where the victim was called and made to feel like a liar," the assistant district attorney said.
"Even if this had gone to trial, and we successfully obtained convictions, then the defendant would have still been in a position to claim he was wrongfully convicted," Mr. Gregor said. "Whereas here, he stood up in front of a judge and admitted to doing those acts for which he was charged."
I find it amusing that it took a week's investigation for the DA's office to collect a $3400.00 fine from this man. He probably had a fight with the GF and this is what he was faced with: a plea, 10 year's probation, or trying to come up with the money to fight a setup. Of course he can no longer teach, and he has to live with being a registered sex offender, let's face it, not everyone has resources. Besides, he can/could make more money working construction. Not that he knew the economy was going to tank at that time.
Bill what about all the potential Juror's that have been poisoned by those 3 so called professional? Is there anyway a person who hasn't been in the court room but feels because of the tactics used in this case will never be able to do their civic duty can complain? I'm a citizen and tax payer and I will never find any of the 3 to be honest or reliable in the truth! They don't have the right to strip me of my rights as a civil servant.
Agreed, Kathy. Furthermore, as I have outlined in a post I just put on the website, the Little Three have managed to destroy ANY credibility that the North Georgia courts may have had.
Their behavior not only has been destructive of the rights of Tonya Craft, but also they have destroyed any notion of fairness and decency. They have presented the worst side possible of the law.
Dr. Anderson, you must see the editorial cartoon in this morning’s Times. It hits the nail on the head. Incompetence and arrogance have driven this case since the day Crooked Deal’s investigation started.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/may/01/media-trial/?opinioncartoons
This statement fromt the comment section is worth repeating.
"Someone moved the train tracks in downtown Ringgold. They were behind my office. Now they run right through the middle of the Courthouse. Painted on the side of the train that has been rolling on them for the past three weeks are the names Len Gregor and Chris Arnt."
Here is the best comment to the cartoon mentioned above.
m sure that was not his intention, but Len Gregor handed the Defense a point today.
He stated in open court directly to Dr. Ann Hazzard, who had been on the stand for the entire day, that "it is easier for her to pass judgment on other interviewers and their MISTAKES, than for her to conduct a flawless interview."
He asked her if she believed the statement [that] "it's easier to blow up a bridge than it is to build one," She replied, "Perhaps."
Gregor then arrogantly shot back with, "I'll explain it to you later."
After all the attempts to prevent this woman with impeccable credentials from offering her clinical testimony to certain aspects surrounding the case -- after personally interviewing at least one of the accusers, he stupidly made that admission which may well prove to be fatal to the Prosecution's case.
Throughout these three weeks, that man has introduced instance after instance of hearsay testimony, then objected to anything at all offered by the Defense that would contradict his case.
Judge House has sustained almost every one of those objections. Is there anyone who does not believe that the Prosecuting Attorneys and the Judge are not in bed? They're french kissing for the love of biscuits.
The Prosecution is handing the Jury all the reasons that could possibly exist to acquit Tonya Craft.
Going back to the first week of the trial, it was related that one of the girls, on June 11, 2008 was interviewed for a second time by Sgt. Tim Deal. During this interview, the girl told the detective that Ms. Craft had touched her "inside my panties." "Who did?" he asked. "Tonya." Sgt. Deal responded, "Why didn’t you tell me this before?" The girl answered, "I just forgot."
I absolutely believe that someone helped her 'remember.' Her initial interview only revealed that one of the 'victims' touched another of the 'victims' inappropriately at a party held in Mrs. Craft's home. She "forgot" that she had been touched in such a manner for two and half weeks after being asked?
This is solid evidence? On what planet?
The mother of girl #1 seems to have had contact with almost every person who has testified in this trial -- spending hours upon hours trying to influence and gather others to join her in prosecuting Tonya Craft, not to mention making a spectacle of both herself and her daughter in the process.
Buzz Franklin did not want to prosecute this case. His absence during this trial speaks volumes in my opinion. When this backfires and Tonya Craft is acquitted of all charges, heads will roll and they doggone well should.
Someone moved the train tracks in downtown Ringgold. They were behind my office. Now they run right through the middle of the Courthouse.
Painted on the side of the train that has been rolling on them for the past three weeks are the names Len Gregor and Chris Arnt.
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Good comments there.
Most of those questioning the defense have done well at citing specific information uncovered in the trial, while those looking for a conviction are stuck with general statements always absent the details needed to support them.
Regarding the anon's comment on Melydia saying something about the "outsiders", you may want to look at that particular broadcast again. She opened that up for the commentary of the corrupt Ken Poston. Ken then said that the defense, since they were outsiders, did not know the special rules looked at in this county. He also stated that Mrs. Craft should have retained a local attorney to explain these "special rules" & if not for that, at least to help with jury selection.
Everyone I have spoken to about this statement agrees that Ken is just a little pissy that he was not chosen by Mrs. Craft to represent her. Ken very much loves being the center of attention (Ridley trial & Marsh trial are just 2 examples). Here's the deal, these are people that know Ken very well, as do I. They actually still talk to him & acknowledge his existence, I do not & also do not have a problem saying so. I actually did in front of a courtroom full of people when I was called to jury duty. Judge Ralph Van Pelt knew why & thanked me for my honesty.
Dr. Anderson,
I have a screen shot of the first detective's wife commenting on a FB page that Tonya Craft is a child molester. I am currently speaking with a couple attys regarding this and some steps to take. Wasn't sure if you wanted them though for your final outline. Since she is the wife of a prosecution witness, the least of the problems with her saying this was it would normally get her husband in a world of poo, but since this is CC, nothing will happen. Just found it interesting.
I've been to 2 ballgames in 2 different counties within the last 12 hours and guess what the talk was in the stands...you got it. The mockery of a trial known as the Tonya Craft Trial. Everyone is outraged at the audacity of "Tweedle D, Twidle Dumb and Tweedle D***. The Truth WILL come out, she is INNOCENT!
The BEST advice the defendant was ever given was to get a lawyer outside the county. There have been hundreds of different posters here and ALL of them are of the same opinion that CC lawyers, both private and government are akin to a nest of rattlesnakes. They all lay in a den together and all know and support each other no matter which side they are on. They are then supported by the sheriff (unless it's his son) and his nest of minions.
Yes, Poston would understood how better to handle the "magical envelopes", but the Wilson Funeral Home folks and the Lamb's have bigger "magical envelopes" and they would have trumped the defendants.
So, all she would have only gotten was "black magic" and she would have had to go to trial just the same. Some "magic" is stronger that others.
If I were an attorney (which I thank God I'm not) I would be embarrassed to even hang my shingle in CC. The nazi judge and the simpletons have made the entire profession look terrible. They are cetainly not trusted by the citizenry.
Anon 2:27, Hallelujah, Amen, Praise the Lord! I know I would not use any of them.
I will say, I have a couple of atty friends who have more intregrity in their pinkies then these yayhoos (attys) in CC have in all of their bodies combined. They are the kind that fight the good fight & believe in the judicial system & how it is supposed to work.
tandt,
It is so much easier for the defense to collect the big retainer, get their client to plead, (which gives his buddy the persecutor a win and makes him happy), the judge gets his magic envelope, so he's happy.
And the poor sucker goes to jail, but doesn't get the max he could have gotten because the persecution stacked a dozen different charges on him. Why else do you think this county has a 98% conviction rate, because they are so damn good. We all know better than that.
You can pee on my head, but please don't try and convice me it's raining.
Tandt said:
"...I have a screen shot of the first detective's wife commenting on a FB page that Tonya Craft is a child molester. I am currently speaking with a couple attys regarding this and some steps to take. Wasn't sure if you wanted them though for your final outline. Since she is the wife of a prosecution witness, the least of the problems with her saying this was it would normally get her husband in a world of poo, but since this is CC, nothing will happen. Just found it interesting."
The date of her comment would certainly be of interest. If it is early on, it would certainly taint the detective, not that the record doesn't already.
Testimony from detectives are worded as if they are just neutral investigators, like they had no influence in deciding who and when arrests or charges come about.
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On the local attorneys, the published rate of success for the prosecutors doesn't make the defense attorneys involved look very good. One has to wonder if all cases lost in the DA office are to "OUTSIDERS".
kbp,
It was actually today when this happened, but it would be interesting to see what she has said otherwise. I doubt if she would accept my friend request, but I could get this particular person to go back & look.
Also, anon 3:02, I am unsure if you addressing me as a champion of local attorneys or what I actually am, and completely against them. Our locals, in CC are terrible, both defense & prosecutors. I am very, very happy that Tonya went elsewhere for representation. In fact, even happier she got Dr. Lorandos who is from Detroit, like me. So if you think I was defending our locals, you obviously have not read all of my posts & know what I am doing to make sure that this woman is set free.
You will never see me defend them as I know the system from the inside out & know why their "conviction" rates are so high.
I have heard from another Judge that (BUZZ) Franklin was a good man, and would do what is right, So I am going to see if this Judge is right or if he will let them take him down with him.. But Poston said Gregor was a good man and we all know better than that..
Is it true that the Appeals Court in ATLANTA are not bias they strictly go by the LAW, they do not have a good ol buddy system.. Is that correct or not...
anon 3:26
Poston said . . Poston said . . .
I cringe every night when I see him step up to the mike as commentator.
He lives, eats, and breathes in the same den with the rest of them. You know he's not going to step up and tell everyone that the conduct here is a travesty of justice.
He just walks that tightrope.
I so agree with your opinion of Poston... if fact, he reminds me of Joal Henke.
i don't give a rats --- what Poston thinks! and he very presence in channel 3's coverage is the one thing i cannot help but question.
i would love to see channel 3 find an attorney with integrity who has no ties to catoosa county.
and about the crack on the Nashville School of Law... i know several well respected judges and attorneys who graduated from the Nashville School of Law... and the teachers/professors there are well respected, practicing judges and attorneys.
Didn't Joal Henke own/manage? that fitness center in Colledgedale back in the early 90's? I heard that his father in law put up the money for him, but when he cheated on his daughter, he jerked the center away.
If this is true, which wife's dad put up the money? It very well could have just been a rumor.
What amazes me is that Henke was a respected martial artist at one time. The martial arts teach integrity, honesty, and honor. He might have been a good competitor, but, he missed the most important lessons on honor. He is nothing but a low life serial adulterer and he has proven he has no honor or self respect at all.
As far as Poston...
I agree with many others that wish WRCB had chosen a legal analyst from outside of the LMJC.
Anybody else notice that even though Poston recorded some footage for the Today show, NONE of it aired and instead Dan Abrams made an appearance? Coincidence? I think not.
I know Joal was a trainer at the Collegedale facility, but I am not aware of him having any ties to it other than that......of course, it would make sense being that the business was poorly owned and operated and eventually shut down.
I am not sure that Joal, personally, has owned anything in his life. His parents buy things for him, Tonya's family has bought things and signed on things for him, and I would imagine that if his current wife has any credit whatsoever, that her name would be on anthing he owns now.
As far as being a Martial Arts instructor, you would be correct in stating that Joal obviously has learned nothing through the years in regard to integrity, honesty and honor.
Joal has lied about his ex-wife, and last week, even threw his own beloved daughter under the bus in an effort to make THE MASTER PLAN of the LIARS and AUDULTERORS CLUB, plausible.
And while we're on the subject of adultery, I can't help but wonder if the multiple hours of phone conversations between Joal Henke to Sandra Lamb AND the multiple hours of phone conversations between Joal Henke and one of the "expert" witnesses has raised any red flags for the current Mrs. Henke.........if she were smart, she would get out and run as far as she can to get away from him before he destroys her life too.
Does anyone have a photo of Joal Henke that they could post?
Encouraging all in the Ringgold/ Chattanooga area to wear yellow to Sunday on church in support of Tonya. Whether it be PEAVINE, OAKWOOD, WOODSTATION or EASTWOOD! Praying jury will see thru these lies and set TONYA FREE!!!!
to annom.7:48 It's on his facebook.
There are also photos of Joal on his wife Sarah's facebook.
I wonder if anyone has an actual count of how many times the defense has objected and the judge over ruled and how many times the prosecution objected and how many times it was sustained??? I think it would be interesting to physically see in writing!
I am so glad you are there for her maybe you can make a difference. I know all to well how this stuff goes on. Here in Oklahoma it is an everyday occurance. It is even worse in juvenile court cases because the judges don't allow spectators so that their illegal actions can't be questioned and so they can't be told on. I tried to expose what was going on in Oklahoma and it made them mad. So they charged me with a crime I didn't commit. They issued 3 warrants for my arrest, threw me in jail and left me there as long as the law would allow. That was in 2008 now I go to court every month. For 18 months I was in court 2 and 3 times a month. Now I am down to once a month. They are still wanting me to plead guilty to a crime I did not commit. I hope you can get justice for Tonya before they decide to come after you for exposing them.
Well Georgia is not the only state doing these "sexual abuse" Witch Hunts. Right now proceedings in the state of Oklahoma are occuring for a innocent man on just the same "sexual abuse" Witch Hunt. The mandated reporter "teacher" has allowed the break-up of a family due to just asking for help. The case is The State of Oklahoma v. Jeffrey Birchfield. The prosecutors office only has heresay evidence and fraudulant medical evidence and they are proceeding to trial with nothing more. A true injustice in our great society. There is no due process of law in the backwoods of Leflore County and only the Prosecutor Margaret Nicholson to lead the way for these "Sex Crimes" of which the DA's office has no evidence. A kangaroo court room, a uneducated jugde and prosecutor and people of the court house whom don't even know the law of the Constitution. A 26 year old man will become the next victim. As to the child who made the allegations-the parents requested and IEP from the Wister school and were refused by the teacher Mrs. Alicia Sumpter. The childs behavior needed to be gotten under control at home, is what the parents were told. A confirmed diagnosis of ADHD by the childs doctor was made in 2006 "Unbeknownst" to the parents and only recently told to the mother of the child-4 years after the diagnosis via the DHS worker. The now 6 year old child has been removed from her home placed in 5 different foster care placements and continually is bombarded by the CPS workers, DA investigators and Psychologist to tell this gross fabrication. The school got a tip from a disgruntled grandma (the dad's mother) that the little girls father was a "Convicted Child Molester" never has been done and the father has NEVER been convicted of any thing of the sort. Yet because an upset grandparent called to tip the school off then it must be true. The school never did look to see if the man had been convicted or even charged- when childhood curosity got the better of the young girl, the next thing the family knew the kids were being removed for alleged sexual abuse.
What scares me about all this is if they can do it to her, what can they do to us? I live in Catoosa County and it is obvious that the law is not fair. I think Tonya is innocent and am embarrassed at what a joke all of this is. But what if she is convicted????Stranger things have happened.
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