- The prosecution had it, but did not give it to the defense, which violates open discovery policies of the State of Georgia, or
- They did not have it at all.
THEY FOUND THE NOTES!!! Caloo, Calay! They must have been hidden in that folder that had Tim "Dirty" Deal's notes of Suzi Thorne's sudden revelation about the "disclosure" of one of the children.
But it gets even better. Yes, "forensic therapist" Holly "Thumbs Up" Kittle now is on the stand. In case you don't remember her, Kittle is the person who gave the "I like it" thumbs up to Chris Arnt's Facebook post that violated the codes of conduct for prosecutors. Furthermore, by signing on to that post, Kittle committed an act that in many states and in real courts of justice would disqualify her from testifying at all, or at very best, her testimony could be impeached.
But, then, we are in "Judge" Brian House's courtroom, where the judge already has been caught on videotape having a conversation he does not want revealed with a bailiff, and who held an ex parte discussion on the telephone with a prosecution witness two days before she testified, but he did not notify the defense.
Kittle's testimony reveals the same shoddy "investigative" procedures that everyone else involved has been performing. From Callie Starnes on Twitter this morning, we get some little snippets:
- This witness seems to think it is very funny that she doesn't know about research defense is citing.
- Witness had been a forensic interviewer for just a few months before conducting interview w/ accuser 1
- Kittle is already getting snappy w/defense. It's amazing to see how the state's witnesses develop an attitude just a few ?s in.
- Witness just rolled eyes for all courtroom to see.
- Kittle being asked if girl's robotic tone of voice when answering ?'s about abuse raised any red flags. She says no.
Think about it. Every time there is a child molestation accusation in the Lookout Mountain Judicial District, people like Kittle are the ones doing the interviews, and not a one of them is qualified to do this kind of work. Furthermore, as we can see, they are arrogant and go into interviews not trying to find out what happened, but rather come into them having already made their conclusions. Thus, they believe their job is to pound square pegs into round holes and bamboozle jurors.
That these kinds of dishonest and incompetent people are permitted to be part of a judicial and prosecutorial apparatus that throws innocent people into prison is an outrage that will not end when this trial is over.
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they even asked her about the FB comment!!!!
Witness says she "liked" comment because never in her career has she seen something like this. Doc. Lorandos says "me either".
Update 11:05am
Arnt's comment referred to defense team as "insane".
Kittle being asked about clicking "like" on comment ADA Chris Arnt made on Facebook about defense team and Tonya Craft case.
From what I understand, she saw no problem with that. Unbelievable.
I just cannot understand how all of this crap, (for lack of a better word) continues to happen. There has got to be somebody somewhere that can do something to stop it.
Just heard from reliable source National Media has shown and interest in doing the story.
What national media outlet? I think it's long overdue.
Very interesting on the stand this morning!
Can someone among the spectators please let us know the reaction / facial expressions of the jury during the various witness testimonies?
Friend is a reporter @ local Chattanooga station..they have emailed their affiliates asking for coverage someone from NBC called the local station this am
I have a friend who was called for jury in Tonya's case. However, he did not get selected. However, they told him to stick around bc their were 4 more child molesation trials coming. Then they sent him home. My question is their a child molesation epidemic in catoosa county?
From what I've been told (someone who was there on Friday), the jury's reaction is obvious. They apparently are noticing and reacting to the the witnesses' behavior with signs of disbelief. Thank goodness!!!!
Please don't tell me Holly Kittle is another witness from the Childrens Advocacy Center. I work with the Advocacy Center here in Chattanooga and I personally believe the employees here are equipped with better qualifications and morals. My concern is the reputation of this wonderful giving organization in Chattanooga being associated with the tactics of the group in GA. Shameful! The bigger concern is a woman wrongfully accused and these people may be part of the reason she could possibly be found guilty.
I WISH THIS WOULD GET SOME NATIONAL COVERAGE DATELINE,20/20.
CNN FOX NEWS SOMEBODY JUST SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHAT A JOKE THIS TRIAL IS.
Wow father of 2nd victim is saying MOM wanted to prosocute not him??? If he truly believed Tonya did this he would trying to kill her himself.
I think it is interesting how non of the "evil ones" (to use their words) post during the trial times....hmmmm....maybe they are too busy being locked inside the witness room with no computer access? Frankly, Bill, I can't believe Sandra hasn't called screaming at you yet. That psycho has screamed at 90% of Catoosa and Walker Co. already.
If you're the father of an alleged child molestation victim, why would you not want to prosecute? Seems to me that this is the father that the p.i. spoke with that said he didn't believe the allegations. It's sad he is having to go through this. Hopefully the defense will get the truth from him. He seems like the weak link for telling the truth. This is all really sad.
I was in the courtroom this morning up until they broke for lunch. The video of the interview was interesting. It sounded like the little girl was reading for a part. She was so casual about the whole conversation. It was really weird. I expected some sort of emotion, anger, crying, sadness, something. She just colored and talked like it was no big deal. As far as this "expert" witness, she has a BA in Anthropology. She performed under supervision autopsies. She took a 5 day course called "Using Words" or something like that, for interviewing children. She was "certified" in February 2009. Was hired at the center March 2009. Worked for a month before interviewing the child. The witness claimed to have interviewed over 250 children. In, at the most, 2 months? I find that hard to believe. She couldn't cite one single piece of research either way on any studies on child abuse. She was a regular smart a@@ to the defense. She was saying "I don't know" 90% of the time to the defense questions. Sometimes before the defense had even asked the question, she was saying "I don't know". As far as the notes, I was "shocked" when they came out. Prosecution claimed to have gone through many boxes over the weekend and finally found it. I am not sure about boxes, state only had 6 or 7 there. Defense had at least twice as many. In the end, the defense made the "expert" witness look like a fool.
Dad confirms that is what his daughter said in tape. #TonyaCraft
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Nosie_Rosie Dad of alleged #TonyaCraft victim says he didn't want to be involved in prosecution but was told he had no choice.
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calliestarnes Defense attorney says he believes girl in tape says, "my mom told me which is which and where they touched me" #TonyaCraft
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calliestarnes A clip of daughter's interview is going to play in courtroom. Dad handed a copy of the transcript. #TonyaCraft
(How can he stand to be in the same house with his wife??? Seems like a decent dad hope he divorces her and gets custody of the kids. IMHO)
Way to go Jerry, prove to everyone that you are a liar concerning the PI, and that you have cheated on your crazy wife multiple times.
Have a nice life leeching off everyone you come into contact with.
I thought at one time you had some integrity. Kiss that one goodbye as your are nothing but a whore of the state.
Where is the evidence that justifies not dismissing the 22 counts of aggrevated child abuse???
The father seems like the most compelling witness presented so far. However, all his testimony amounts to is hearsay, not evidence. He feels his daughter is telling the truth about the abuse now, but still there is no evidence.
Still sounds to me like a case of sexually precocious children experimentation and when caught look for a means to deflect the blame.
the state rest and the defense trying to do away with charges...surprise surprise, the judge says there is sufficient evidence on all 22 counts.
The father lied on the stand, saying he never met with the private investigator. He perjured himself. He is also an adulterer who has cheated on his kook wife several times. He cannot be trusted.
Why was the defense not able to bring up the P.I. and ask the husband about the conflicting testimony?
anon 2:32,
I think the defense could not bring up more about the p.i. because of the prosecution's "obstruction of justice" case against him, he can not be a witness & House, during pre-trial, said that anything he collected could not be used as evidence.
I am glad the defense asked him about the p.i. though. It's another case of perjury and puts the state & House in more trouble when all is said & done. The defense is very smart on knowing what they can & can not get away with in this courtroom. Yea!!!
Just curious - when, how, who can bring charges of perjury? What are the penalties for perjury?
Ok everyone, I don't remember who suggested this, but I have e-mailed the O'Reiley Factor (excuse my spelling, I am very spell check dependent) and CNN. I saw in an earlier comment on this blog that perhaps Tonya will get national coverage!!! I think that is awesome, I did not e-mail Nancy Grace because like many of you I think she is the anti-christ and that could do more harm than good. I have also sent more than 25 letters, along with approx 30 e-mails to various people at the state bar association, attny general, gov, and judicial disciplinary something (can't remember exactly what the name is right now LOL) I encourage/challenge everyone who sees the travesty going on in this case to do the exact same thing. I also called the state bar association and spoke with a very friendly lady told her my story (as passionately as I could) and was shocked at the response I got... She gave me a LOT of information as to who to contact and how... If these agencies get enough letters and phone calls they are going to have to do something!!! Let's help this woman!!! I don't know her personally I only have met her once through a friend of a friend!!! No more than anyone else!!!
anon 2:52.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VJSSFO6&show_article=1
Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, a one-time rising star and Detroit's youngest elected leader, was charged Monday with perjury and other counts after sexually explicit text messages contradicted his sworn denials of an affair with a top aide.
Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy also charged....
Why does the national media need to be involved? The local media needs to ball up and start yelling on the evening news what is going on. Bill O'Reilly unfortunately would not cover this as he is a poster child for the CAC type people.
People have contacted ALL of the national media organizations repeatedly. Tonya herself went to these studios in NYC etc. and they wouldn't give her the time of day. Nancy Grace said she was guilty. I promise, we've tried and will keep trying to get Tonya the exposure she so desperately needs. National media (though, I've heard differently about NBC today not sure if it is true or rumor) said they'd get involved if she is convicted (of course.)
The reason I think the national media needs to get involved is that the local media is in direct competition with each other. Where channel 3 is clearly pro Tonya, channel 9 is not, the have portrayed her as guilty from day one. In my opinion they it is essentially the same as my husband and I going to vote and one of us voting yes and the other voting no. It's counterproductive. It's not that I don't think everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just feel that this is bigger than local coverage, she needs more help than that, something/someone to draw attention to these crooks, that's all.
The reason the national media needs to be involved is this, they do not have to be around these yayhoos on a daily basis. As Bill has said in prior posts, even though the media is supposed to be here for the purpose of checks and balances, it mostly finds itself at the mercy of the local sheriff's depts, pd's, DA's & Judges. If they don't play nice, they don't get any story. Now, Channel 9 just makes everything up, so they are completely unreliable. On this particular case, Channel 3 is actually calling out the state, so I am proud of them. Channel 12, not really showing up.
Basically, if the national media gets involved, they can report the truth and call these people out for what they are doing without fear. It is kind of embarrassing, once again, but I believe it is needed this time.
well stated tandt!!!
tl,
Looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time. That could be scary! LOL
Funny how these so called "professionals" can't act professional on the witness stand. Eye rolling, smart remarks, attitudes, body language, very, very unprofessional and childish!!!
The judge and prosecutors in this case remind me of the dog poop I have to scrape off my shoes when the neighbor's pooch does its business in my yard.
Jerry McDonald needs to update his IMDB resume and post acting lessons to rival those of the first accuser. What a liar!!!
Another perjure...Kelli McDonald said the PI talked to her husband, while Jerry "Crybaby" said he did not. GET YOUR STORIES STRAIGHT YOU BANKRUPT REJECTS!
Mr. McDonald was crying because he knew he had to go home to his nutjob wife instead of one of the ten women he has committed adultery with.
And let's be honest, half of the prosecution side is his family, and they all boo-hooed when he told his perjury filled story.
Does anyone know why the father of the little child actor hasn't been called to the stand? I know that he is getting a divorce from the witch of the mom but isn't he there with her in the court house?
Oh yeah, he is there, acting like they are together. Trust me, nothing could be further from the truth.
Wrote a letter to Adam Liptak of the NYT, he responded immediately and seemed interested. I also referred him to this blog.
I have some other people/organizations I plan on contacting in the next few days. This farce needs publicity!
I feel like the character assassination is really getting out of hand here on all fronts. I truly believe that Tonya is innocent of all charges, but let me tell you something about Jerry McDonald. This is a guy who has dedicated his life to the saving of others. I promise you if you were laying in the street bleeding and dying, his face is one that you would want to see looking down at you. He is a Lifeforce Paramedic, you know, the hospital helicopter that the news so loves to catch video bites of as they whisk away patients of tragedy, and he is a damn good medic and friend. I totally believe his testamony, and I assure you the tears were genuine. He believes his daughter. I have known Jerry my whole life, and believe that he truly believes what he has been told. We are all too quick to jump on people for bringing out Tonya's past sexual history, let's be the bigger people here, and not be so quick to slay the character of Jerry for alleged indiscretions that he may have been a part of. It doesn't change what he believes where his daughter is concerned. Thing is, that is what Tonya would want too.I think this whole mess comes with all the councelling and the suggestive forensic interviews that took place with unqualified interviewers, laughable (non)expert witnesses, a prosecution triple tag team that make the Fabulous Freebirds look like amatures, and mothers with a vendetta. Please don't be so quick to pass judgement on people, because it is what we are fighting for for Tonya. He was the father that did not want to pursue charges, and was told by prosecutors that he would be charged with obstruction if he hindered their case. This all falls back on Sandra Lamb and Sheri Wilson as far as I am concerned, and the Lamb woman is the instigator and is the pusher. Truly the wolf in Lamb clothing.
Ms. Walker's testomony proved to be quite interesting to me.
Anon 6:21, good job!
" Wrote a letter to Adam Liptak of the NYT, he responded immediately and seemed interested. I also referred him to this blog.
This link will give them ALL of the posts on the The Tonya Craft Case, with the most recent always at the top.
The more that write media contacts, the better chance they'll notice. Hope more join in.
I know Jerry McDonald too...and @ least 2 of his mistresses.
Finally a credible witness has emerged! Ms. Walker, I, for one, believe you!
It is unfortunate Mr McDonald has indiscretions....and even more unfortunate the jury will probably never know what they are. Tonya is being judged on character fabricated by jokers like Lamb and Wilson....too bad they can't know the testimony of prosecution witnesses is questionable at the very least. While Mr McDonald may believe what his daughter may have said it doesn't necessarily mean it is true. I, for one, would discredit his testimony based on his character.
I believed that Jerry was a good man too...until he told bald faced lies on the stand. I think he's beat down because he committed "prior bad acts" (isn't that what it is called when it is against Tonya?)and he goes along with what his psychotic wife says. I don't even believe he was "molested" more than did some experimenting of his own. He was old enough to fight his way out of it. NO ONE heard of that until he got married and his wife starting telling everyone all about it because of his preference for certain marital aids.
Anyway, court has broken and everyone's probably had supper...tie for the crazies to start posting now that they're out of the witness room (or away from the prosecution table - frankly, some of those posts were from someone WAY too smart to be one of the accusers. Money would be on Gregor more than Arnt, but I guess stranger things have happened)
Anon 6:29, How do you explain the discrepancy in Jerry and Kelli's testimony concerning the PI?
How come the defense was able to call Walker to the stand but unable to call up the other children at the slumber party or their parents?
Walker's testimony that she was threatened by Lamb seems really powerful. Does anyone know what kind of threat was made? Also her testimony appears to demonstrate the heavy handed tactics used by the prosecution in gathering "evidence". I will be amazed if this testimony does not play heavily in favor of Tonya in the Jury's decision.
Anon @6:29 makes several good points.
There is a line between "pile-on" vindictive mudslinging and indignation.
I also believe that Tonya, who has suffered both and much much more, would want her supporters to avoid the the former. Though I am certain she understands where the anger comes from.
Besides, comments that exist solely in that realm (true or not) diverts attention from the real issues at hand.
I live in Chickamauga not in the city limits but yes my boys go to school there. I am just wondering does everyone cheat on everyone in this town. I guess that I have just had my head in the sand. Maybe I just don't gossip like everyone else but from what I have read and heard in the last 3 weeks people around here all have way too much time on there hands. Guess I am to busy raising my boys.
I think many people want to question the ethics and morality of those distorting the truth.
Anon 7:30....I live in Chickamauga also, just outside the city limits. The city limits are across the street from me. My kids go to Rossville Elementary. I am not sure yet if that is a good thing. Anyway, I am not one of those people that are cheaters. So I guess there are a few of us that still have morals in Chickamauga. I guess it is reserved for those within the city limits.
Anon at 6:29 We are all too quick to jump on people for bringing out Tonya's past sexual history
So you are saying that it is relevant and was ok to do so (assuming it was true to begin with, which given the source is a big if)??? Character assassination is ok depending on who the character is?
There is absolutely no correlation between sexual orientation and child molestation. The ignorant may think otherwise based on the propaganda they have been fed, mostly by the church, since it helps further demonize the target group, but the facts simply don't back it up. As to having once seen an adult movie with a lesbian scene, give me a break - if that makes one a child molester, if truth be told there probably aren't enough prisons in GA to hold just the women from Catoosa and the surrounding counties alone that would be guilty.
Your defense of Mr. McDonald is admirable, and I mean that without sarcasm. You know him personally it seems, so naturally base your opinion on your interactions with him. The same holds true for many of Tonya Craft's supporters who know her personally. But, those of us who don't know any of the players on either side, aren't blinded or influenced by any preconceived notions either way. And from that vantage point, McDonald's testimony didn't seem to add anything at all toward something other than Tonya Craft is an innocent victim of a corrupt system.
Anon 7:26,
I am not in the court room so perhaps someone who was there can clarify. To my understanding from the Press Twitters, it was Obstruction of Justice.
Also, Please note this comment via twitter;
" Defense attorney says he believes girl in tape says, "my mom told me which is which and where they touched me" #TonyaCraft"
Was anyone in the courtroom who actually listened to the tapes of the girl's interviews? I get the very real sense this is actually what is going on rather than sexual assault.
What a very sad witch hunt. I cannot grasp how the judge does not recuse himself since he represented her ex husband in their divorce. That has to be a conflict at the VERY least.
It is my believe that if you are going to get on the stand and testify in ANY trial and talk about the character of anyone else then you open yourself up to have people talk about your character. If you don't live a perfect life don't throw the first stone. Let's face it none of us live a perfect life
It amazes me that what is happening to Tonya is "OK" character assassination (my words) yet poor Jerry cries and let's not hurt his feelings. Please... Jerry could have stood up for the truth instead of spewing more lies. What a sad existence he must live.
Anon 7:30 I live in Chickamauga outside of the city limits, and NO.. everyone does not cheat in this town! There are some of us that still have morals, and jobs and raising our family and doing nice things for others and doing things for God and doing things with our kids that keep us quite busy enough! And you don't have to gossip to hear things? sometimes things just fall in your lap....I am quite shocked about the testimony that occurred on Friday though. My kids go to school at Chickamauga and are in these childrens' classes. I think we all need to pray more for our children and the school.
I'm gonna go with the prosecution didn't give the defense the "evidence" that they had. In my husbands case the prosecution pulled out evidence the defense had never seen.
people who cheat are deceitful, dishonest and lack integrity.
My point is past indiscretions on all accounts have no more bearing for one than for the other. As for my explainion of the inconsistencies I have none... the truth is what we that support Tonya all seek. I reiterate I think she is tortally and completely innocent.
You know how when you see child molesters on tv, they sort of give you the creeps. Their eyes always just creep me out. When I was waiting to go into the court room today, Tonya and her defense team walked by. She looked at me and attempted a smile. My heart just broke for her. My 18 year old daughter looked at her and said to me "How could anyone think she is a child molester?" You could definitely see the toll that this whole thing has taken on Tonya. Once this is all over and she IS found innocent, she needs to take her kids on a long vacation on the money from the book and movie deals
Question to readers:
From today's Chattanoogan.com post.
There is mention of the DA's own investigator, Roger Smith, Jr.
Is this the first he has been mentioned in the press coverage of this case?
Why wouldn't a DA present him to the court record and jury?
Holly Kittle has a degree in Forensic Pathology, wonder how that qualifies her to do forensic interviews with possible child abuse victims? Oh, guess it must be the word forensic!!!
Yeah how did Kittle get to be such an expert when this is taken directly from the NW GA regional crime team:First Row - Amy Kendrick, Jennifer McLamb, Elena Floyd, Elaine Pettyjohn, Joy Miller, Debra Smith
Second Row - Jay Jarvis, Cara Parris, Emily Bright, Michelle Stephens, Debbie Langshaw, Holly Kittle, Dr. William Oliver
This is the Northwestern Regional Crime Lab team. We serve the northwestern counties of Georgia in Toxicology, Chemistry and Medical Examiner's Office.
Don't see anything about abuse? Here's the link:http://www.team.georgia.gov/portal/site/TGC/menuitem.7eec17fffd55a22bddc2ffe4d03036a0/?vgnextoid=0c21b6d0b6c72110VgnVCM100000bf01010aRCRD&vgnextchannel=609fb6d0b6c72110VgnVCM100000bf01010aRCRD
you (9:03) are wrong. it shows their character. or lack thereof.
Sarah Bass Henke Some of the sweetest moments come when you tuck your children in bed at night :)
Straight from her Facebook page. That's just a disturbing thought.
If today is any indication of how the rest of this trial is going to go, I suggest the prosecution and its witnesses strap in... looks like they're in for a bumpy ride. There's not going to be much credibility or respect left for the whole lot of them, including House.
I am surprised that Sarah Bass Henke's page does not mention her enjoyment of showering with someone elses child. Probably while Joal is showering with some other chick.
Sarah Bass Henke's facebook is a complete joke. She is just praying (as she seems to do a lot from the amount of bible references in her status's) that Tonya or one of Tonya's friends see all the moments that SHE is sharing with TONYA's children. Makes me sick to read. Some christian she is...acts like trashy whore in public being all over her husband and showers with her step daughter..weird.
If homosexual behavior correlated with child molestation, why are so many judges in this country granting child adoptions to homosexual couples?
Sarah Bass Henke those are not your children, you can't keep them from Tonya forever. They will grow up one day but by that time you will be nothing but a memory and wife # 6 or 7 will be attending their graduation.
Anon 10:42.... I agree that it makes me sick also. She is laying it on so thick it is disgusting. Who is she trying to convince? You would think that being a nurse she would know better than to shower with her step daughter.
What happened at the end of the day today? Did the defense witness agree with Det. Deal when she said that it would take more than the testimony of a 7 yo to instigate an arrest? I missed that part. I heard she contradicted the defense lawyer and agreed with Deal during cross examination by Arnt. Does anybody have a transcript from the last part?
So, the prosecution has the testimony of the kids, the parents (the last one was VERY sympathetic and powerful- I saw him and it even broke my heart :( , the forensic investigators, and Tonya's prior homosexual history...anything else? What else could they have besides DNA or a video? Will they be able to present anything else like that, or are they done?
I was told we kind of took a hit at the end of today. Is that right?
She made a typo, it should have read... Some of the sweetest moments come when I tuck your children in bed at night :)
You are right Denise. Tonya doesn't look anything like a child molester! I mean she is pretty and blonde, how could anyone think she is capable of such a thing? It's neat how you looked the woman in the eye and was able to get a sense of her soul.
@ anon 11:25
Soul searching is all anyone is left to since there is no evidence presented in this case.
@ anon 11:10
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_174346.asp
This article seemed to present the defense in a good position. In fact Walker's testimony seemed pretty damaging to the prosecution. I didn't detect anything in this or other coverage that indicated a hit on defense, but it would be nice to see a transcript instead of someone's interpretation of events.
Denise C...Notice how all these bible verses appear in her status's lately. She wants us to see her as the perfect christian step mother, she's not fooling me. I almost hope Tonya does not see those things because as a mother it would break my heart to see someone talking about tucking my daughter in bed at night.
To Anon 11:11...that made me laugh out loud..too funny!
I was told the cross examination of the defense witness struck a blow to the 'witch hunt' scenario. That she made it sound like there was no witch hunt.
Why are they going after Tonya anyway? Don't they have enough to do already?
Sarah Bass Henke's About me:
I have two step kids that are my children.
NO THEYRE NOT! They're TONYA'S children. Give Tonya back her children you dumb. 27 year old. showering with a 6 year old bitch.
You're right 11:25 - She is way to attractive to be a child molester!
President Bush was able to look people in the eye like that. He could see their souls! I wish he were here to look at Tonya.
@ Anon 11:10 - I think the testimony of the little children, the parents, the forensic people, and Tonya's homosexuality is all the prosecution has. I don't think they can present anything else now that they rested.
I would like to see that transcript, too.
I don't know, it sounded like Walker had a lot to say about how they hated Tonya and talked endless s*## about her before going after her with accusations and trying to coerce Walker into doing the same.
How on earth could the jury possibly overlook the lack of evidence, conflicting testimonies, and all the backbiting behavior of these cretins.
Psalm 34:12-13 (NIV). Whoever of you loves life and desires to see many good days, keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking lies.......God reminds us that our words and the way we use our speech greatly impact the quality of life we enjoy. Nothing cuts short a vibrant life like evil speech and lies we tell. They set loose a force of deception and damage that we cannot control. This unleashed power not only damages those about whom and to whom we speak, but they eventually boomerang and come back and bring their deadly payload back into our own lives. Let's be people who speak what is right, good, wholesome, holy, true, and a blessing. (cf. Ephesians 4:20-5:12)
Thought this was fitting for the situation.
The prosecution can present more in rebuttal to evidence the defense introduces.
That is more limited to responding only to that evidence they hope to nulify.
The defense can do the same, and so forth until they are all finished (in most states).
Does anyone know where Sarah Bass Henke is a nurse? I want to make sure I never go there, or take a family member of mine to where she is working... Someone out there know?
Her facebook says she is an oncology nurse at Parkside. I don't know how true that is given the source. Everything else on her facebook seems far fetched.
Anon 11:25 and 11:52...She is attractive, but I do want to make something perfectly clear. I in no way think that looks has anything to do with my opinion. There has been plenty of very attractive sickos. It was the way she carried herself, the pain in her eyes, and her willingness to look me in the eyes. She struck me as humble but at the same time refusing to allow this to break her. After sitting in the trial for just a few hours, I have a new respect for this woman. She sat in court, straight up and attentive. I would be totally shut down and completely useless. She is a very strong woman.
Joal and Sarah Henke Kelli and Jerry McDonald,
It is better to be an open sinner, than a false saint. I hope you sincerely ask for forgiveness each night before you tuck yourself into bed.
To the 7:07
Joal Henke has not admitted anything. When asked about his divorce from Tonya, he lied to the attorney and then said he did not recall when the counsel asked him about incriminating videotapes.
As for Sarah Bass Henke, she told the court a bald-faced lie when she claimed that Tonya's daughter was being neglected, with "dirty and matted hair," and THAT was why she took showers with her. Give me a break.
These people who claim to be good Christians (Sarah Henke has all sorts of Bible verses and more at her site) not only are breaking the commandment not to give false witness, but by claiming to be followers of Christ and then lying on the stand, they also take the Lord's name in vain.
So, please stop this nonsense about them being such good people. Good people do not lie on a witness stand in order to take the life of an innocent person, and that is what they are doing, as everyone knows that if the jury convicts Tonya Craft, Brian House will sentence her effectively to life in prison.
What we are seeing is a monstrous evil, period.
As a stepmother myself, there is NO WAY I would ever shower with my stepchild! I have heard of mothers showering with their children when they were infants, but not then they are 5 or 6! I am sure my stepchildrens mother would be in a total outrage, which I would not blame her if this were going on at my house. I too would be in an outrage if this were happening with my child. There are boudaries stepmothers do not cross, and she has crossed them all!
Hmmm, with regards to Mrs. Sarah (lying)Bass-Henke... I wonder if that is supposed to be oncology at Parkridge Hospital. Parkside is a nursing home owned by Hutcheson, and to the best of my knowledge, they don't have oncology nurses on staff... Very strange indeed. Is she a LPN or RN?
I have seen Tonya's children on a daily basis when she still had custody of them. Believe me there is no truth to the neglect issue. They were both very well dressed in clean clothes and hair. I mean come on look how Tonya presents herself neat and clean if you think she would do less for her own children you are crazy. She has always been a great mom. Unlike little Miss Sarah Henke. Go have your own children with that monster you call a loving husband. It takes a small woman to try to pretend they are the real mother of someone else's children.
Sarah B.H. is an RN.
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