Tuesday, May 4, 2010

Message to the Prosecution: Cut Your Losses and Drop the Charges Now!

[Update, Tuesday 4:50 PM]: Dennis Norwood of The Chattanoogan has an excellent account of the morning's testimony by Dr. Dr. William "Bill" Bernet, who told the court that Tim Deal's "investigation" was "shoddy." That Arnt, Gregor, and House still are trying to get Tonya Craft convicted after the parade of witnesses shooting down their arguments is a disgrace. If you want to know why I am intent on pursuing disbarment for the prosecutors, look no further than their refusal even to pay attention to these distinguished witnesses.
[End Update]

The most effective way that African hunters go after monkeys is to lay out a hollowed gourd with a narrow neck and fasten it to something solid. Inside the gourd, they put nuts that will attract a monkey to a point where it will put its hand into the gourd and grab the nuts.

Unfortunately for the monkey, the neck of the gourd is too narrow for the monkey's fist, which means that unless the animal lets go of the nuts, it cannot move. At that point, the hunters approach and still the monkey will not let go, even to the bitter end.

I use this analogy because that is what I see Chris Arnt, Len Gregor, and Brian House doing. Even as the expert witnesses -- and these experts literally ARE the people that WROTE THE BOOK on child molestation accusations -- chew up and spit out the false charges against Tonya Craft, they soldier on as though they had a duty to carry out the trial no matter how many times the charges are debunked. Like the proverbial monkey, they hold even more tightly to this case, even as it threatens to doom their careers.

Let us assume that at the BEGINNING of this investigation, Arnt, Gregor and Tim Deal took the three children to be examined by Dr. Fajman, Dr. Hazzard, Dr. Aldridge, and Dr. Bernet. Let us further assume that the three people gave the same answers to the investigators and prosecutors that they have given on the stand: they find NO EVIDENCE of sexual abuse.

What would have Deal, Arnt and Gregor have done? Would they have pursued this investigation further, or would have they told the parents that there was no evidence by which they could -- or should -- gain a conviction? I'll go further. How many investigators in the State of Georgia, if they are told by these four people or at least some of them that there was no sign of sexual or other abuse, would still pursue charges?

That these men continue to push forward despite being told from literally the gold standard of therapists and scholars like this is absolutely telling. They cannot be saying that these witnesses are stupid or are unable to properly diagnose anything.

No, what Arnt and Gregor and House are doing is what no prosecutor or judge EVER should let happen: pursue an innocent person because someone wants to "win." That is not just bad prosecution, it is immoral. It is an offense so terrible that anyone who engages in it should not be permitted to work in that field again.

Michael Nifong's "investigator" Linwood Wilson, seeing that all the wheels were coming off the Duke Lacrosse Case, begged Nifong to get rid of the whole thing, to drop the charges, cut his losses, and move on. Unfortunately, Nifong simply refashioned the charges in a way that was so contrived that law professor James Coleman of Duke University Law School declared that Nifong was "mooning the system."

Indeed, "mooning" was and is a good term for both the Duke and the Tonya Craft cases, as the prosecutors and House proudly are showing their backsides to everything their professions are supposed to be. As I have followed the testimonies of Dr. Fajman, Dr. Aldridge, and now Dr. Bernet, I realize something quite terrible: the prosecution did not WANT people like this to testify because the prosecutors KNEW what they would say, and they would undermine the very testimonies that prosecutors already know are untrue.

In other words, I am saying that Chris Arnt and Len Gregor at VERY BEST were reckless in pursuing these charges and at the worst, knew they were false. This goes against everything for which the courts supposedly stand, and what our forefathers knew about justice.

Furthermore, by attacking these witnesses and trying to tell the jury that ALL FOUR OF THEM are not telling the truth, Arnt and Gregor have set themselves up for real problems in the future. People talk, and especially witnesses like this, who don't take this kind of treatment sitting down.

I realize that these witnesses not only believe the prosecution is wrong, but they firmly believe that the prosecutors are trying to railroad an innocent person into prison, and they are taking that personally. Don't think for a second that they are not going to make sure that prosecutors and judges know about what Arnt and Gregor and House are doing.

While it might be a short-term loss, the very best thing for the careers of these three men is to drop the charges now. Unfortunately, like the poor monkey, they are holding onto the bait with everything they have and refusing to let go. Like Nifong, they "moon" the system and like Nifong, they will find their careers in jeopardy.

94 comments:

Kellie Graham said...

Gregor says D-Lo is "playing to the media", judge takes motion hearing into chambers. (recent wrcb tweet)
Why is Gregor so worried about the media? maybe b'c his so-called "evidence" doesn't add up!

Anonymous said...

If I were Gregor and Arnt, I wouldn't want the medial to see my manipulation of the law either. I wouldn't want them to see the truth, but only my side so I can be the Man who wins at all costs, even an innocent victim of their jurisdiction.

Anonymous said...

It's a good thing that Gregor and Arnt are not smart attorneys or they would be more dangerous than they are. They must have taken the on line course.

Anonymous said...

I have just left the courtroom after they went into chambers. It seems that the prosecution has been rather quiet today. They have not had much to say. Dr. Bernet has all bvut discredited any witness that the State has put on the stand. He point is that the children were led to believe or manipulated into providing false details. He states that research shows that this can be accomplished in less than one hour per an experiment that he had with his on son when he was 3.

Victoria said...

Cut your losses!!!

Hey, does anyone know if these losers, if disbarred, can get licenses in other states? If not, what kind of job prospects are there for these disbarred and unsavory characters?

Any chance that House will be held accountable?

William L. Anderson said...

Here is Rule 3.3 for Prosecutors:

(a) A lawyer shall not knowingly:

(1) make a false statement of material fact or law to a tribunal;

(2) fail to disclose a material fact to a tribunal when disclosure is necessary to avoid assisting a criminal or fraudulent act by the client;

(3) fail to disclose to the tribunal legal authority in the controlling jurisdiction known to the lawyer to be directly adverse to the position of the client and not disclosed by opposing counsel; or

(4) offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false. If a lawyer has offered material evidence and comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures.

(b) The duties stated in paragraph (a) continue to the conclusion of the proceeding, and apply even if compliance requires disclosure of information otherwise protected by Rule 1.6.

(c) A lawyer may refuse to offer evidence that the lawyer reasonably believes is false.

(d) In an ex parte proceeding, other than grand jury proceedings, a lawyer shall inform the tribunal of all material facts known to the lawyer that the lawyer reasonably believes are necessary to enable the tribunal to make an informed decision, whether or not the facts are adverse.

The maximum penalty for a violation of this Rule is disbarment.

These people are knowingly pushing false charges. These witnesses have told them that in so many words, and I know for a fact that Dr. Nancy Aldridge is NOT going to be silent when this trial is over.

Arnt and Gregor are staring at disbarment, and they have to know that. They believe that a conviction would lessen that chance when, in fact, it will make disbarment a greater possibility.

Anonymous said...

Here is the thing I only hope the jury is paying attention to... All four of these experts have testified to the same thing. None of them, like the prosecution has so unsuccessfully tried to do, has collaborated with the others to "Get the story straight." They are going solely on the evidence. I only pray the jury realizes what a travesty is actually happening in front of their eyes!!!

David said...

Thank goodness WTVC is not the only source of news for this trial. I notice they only have two comments on their day-old story. Mr Anderson had that many with in 5 minutes of posting his blog.

Anonymous said...

this case in unbelievable. Thank you for keeping this blog up to date and explaining things to those of us that do not know the law

john lichtenstein said...

The prosecutors could have hired real experts. You don't have to call all the way down to Emory to get a pediatrician. But they didn't, because they knew Tonya was innocent, and they didn't want any uppity MD telling them things they didn't want to hear.

David said...

Here is another interesting case from a few years ago... The Little Rascal's Day Care:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ra_edent.htm

Anonymous said...

John, the prosecution never in a million years thought some "dumb blonde" school teacher from Hickamauga would ever mount a defense like has been mounted... I guess there goes the dumb blonde theory... Those idiot will have to start picking on some other racial, or ethical people now. If they ever survive this case, which I certainly hope they don't.

Anonymous said...

Mr Anderson-
Just a question...when this is all over if they do convict her and it is overturned by an appeal, will it cause other similar cases presented by this same "team" to be reopened and possibly appealed also? I don't know much about legal stuff, but it seems that if they would go this length to convict Tonya, then it's not their first time doing it and other innocent people are suffering for it!

Kerwyn said...

To Anon,

It can, if the folks have the money to get their cases reopened AND Buzz (the DA) has the stones to do the investigation required.

I feel that any case that involved the CAC should be immediately re investigated by educated and impartial investigators. I will bet your going to find several permanently damaged children and families from these incompetent, ill educated, self serving stooges.

Anonymous said...

Here is something that strikes me about Tonya. She maintains her innocence, and emphatically states, that no matter what the jury verdict is, that the truth remains the same. She states if exonerated, she wants very much to go to law school to help prevent this travesty from ever happening to another innocent person. I wouldn't be surprised at all if any or all of her defense attorneys didn't offer her a partnership when she completes law school... I just wonder how the ole disbarred fratboy III are going to feel when she has her law license, and they are trying to get a job pumping her septic tank.
You know though, I am sure they will all tell her, "It was nothing personal." Like that would mean something.
But as good as a person as she seems to be (I don't know her personally), and as elegantly as she has held her head high in the face of this storm, she would probably do as Christ did... and forgive them all completely, and sit on the porch and drink iced tea, while they go about the only job they will be able to get when this is over. You know, as much as they are trying to sling it now, I guess you could say they are partially qualified for the job.

Kerwyn said...

I think it interesting that the Prosecution in this case has fought so hard to prevent the information about Laurie Evans from being presented. IF indeed as it appears from the little testimony I have seen, that she suffered from some form of mental illness (remember that could be a simple as depression so doing go all wild with the Schizo stuff), WHY in the world would 1. CAC allow her contact with any children (Judge in HamCo didn't want her to) and 2. The prosecution fight so hard to hide the evidence of an unbalanced person counseling these girls.

As a matter of point, HE should be the one investigating CAC for criminal practices in allowing someone with issues to be contact with allegedly abused children.

ARNT your a travesty, an example of what, exactly, our criminal justice system does NOT stand for, a bully and a dishonest man.

You Sir, have no honor.

Anonymous said...

Folks remember one thing There families here in Catoosa county that are worse than House and the proscution It is their envelopes that were passed to this people. These people House, proscution and others connected to this case that have sold their souls to the devil.

William L. Anderson said...

I have written that I believe Tonya's case is one of those watersheds that has effects well beyond what is happening right now. The CAC and these same prosecutors and investigators have been a conviction team for quite a while.

Yet, what have we seen here? We have seen the witnesses take apart the CAC, and don't tell me that it is going to be business as usual. Dr. Aldridge has been a prime mover in the establishment of CACs, and she is not going to ignore what is happening in North Georgia.

I suspect those people there are on notice, and that is going to mean that a lot of other cases will be reviewed. As I have written elsewhere, one of the worst things for the prosecutors would be to get a conviction, because not only would Tonya's conviction be scrutinized by motivated people, but the others as well.

One could see a cascade of overturned cases as a result, and that would doom the careers of a lot of people.

Whether or not Tonya is convicted will have no effect on my own efforts to seek disbarment of the prosecutors. However, if they do manage a conviction, a number of other people will join me in my efforts.

Kerwyn said...

You are correct Mr. Anderson and many of us carry significant professional creditials to do just that. Unlike CAC, I did not get my degree online and take a few seminars.

My curriculum vitae will stand up to theirs any day of the week (waves my certs around wildly)

Anonymous said...

Oh WOW!!! It seems the voices of truth are getting into the head of ole facebook!!!!

from walkermessenger.com

4:16 p.m.

After being corrected on more than one occasion by Dr. Bernet, Arnt turned around to those in the courtroom and said, "If anyone has anymore comments, you can leave, on either side." Judge House then warned the court that if there were anymore comments or distractions, that person would be escorted out by a bailiff and banned for the day.

Whats the matter, Mr. Are Not? Are you having flashes of your career going into the toilet? I wish it were possible to put the prosecutor on the stand, and let the defense have at him... Talk about squirming...

YOU ARE AN AMATURE CHRIS ARNT, YOU DON'T HAVE A FRIGGIN CLUE WHAT TRUTH IS!!!!! and you can quote me on that, you facist bully!!!!

Kellie Graham said...

Yes, it seems Babyface Arnt got his feelings hurt!

Anonymous said...

FYI.... it is my understanding Joal Henke is one of the primary initial partners for Keller Williams Realty. Change plans now for your realtor needs!!

Heather O. said...

Brian House (sorry, I can't even honor him by defiling the term "judge") and Chris Arnt are the biggest jokes since the last Presidential election. I can't WAIT for the aftermath of their "home cooked" politics and deplorable job on this case to come full circle! They bring mockery the very idea of the legal process and should be shunned and outcast from the very society they are ATTEMPTING to grandstand to. I am sure there are REAL attorneys and judges all over this country simultaneously holding their sides laughing at the two of them as they put their heads in their hands, shaking them in humiliation that these two sorry excuses for men dare to count themselves among the truly educated, REAL attorneys and judges in this country. LAUGHING STOCK, I'm telling you. Laughing stock....I hope they get their cockles fried by the GA Bar.

Anonymous said...

Joal Henke does not appear on the Keller Williams website anymore:) But he is head honcho here in the Chattanooga office. Can still google his name and Keller Williams...will find him under other URL's!!! DIRT BAG!!

William L. Anderson said...

To the 4:49

If he had any parties or meetings with any of the prosecution team, be they Arnt or Gregor or any prosecution witnesses, you should report it to the attorneys after the trial is over.

Anonymous said...

http://chattanooga.yourkwoffice.com/mcj/user/AssociateSearchSubmitAction.do?orgId=5178&firstName=&lastName=&rows=50

Joal Henke as a prized realtor!

Anonymous said...

If I were aware of any inappropriate contact, I would have reported it already.

Heather O. said...

Joal Henke has never been about anything but Joal Henke. He's not big time. He's not even medium time. The first day I laid eyes on him, I watched how he spoke to her and treated her...she was nothing but chattel to him. He used her to promote his own "fitness" business. She always out classed him. She always rose above him. And, I have faith that this will be no different. Tonya is one of the TRULY decent people left. And, if drinking, going to Vegas or wearing a bikini (God knows I wish I still could!) makes one a child molester or evil person then, I think our prison over-population problem is about to get a LOT larger. Wonder if we raided House's or Arnt's video stash or check card records how many X rated movies or alcohol purchases we'd find? Interesting issue to ponder there, isn't it? Such hypocrisy! Can't wait to see these two go down.

Kerwyn said...

I would find it fascinating to hear from people who have known Arnt socially. I bet he has made social gaff's like getting drunk and hitting on woman in a less than gentlemanly fashion.

Everyone and I mean everyone has skeletons. The difference is, we have not been accused of molesting any children........ yet

Denise C. said...

Well after all this about exercising, watching porn, going to Vegas, drinking a beer or two and wearing bikinis making you a child molester, I know one thing for sure. I can never be accused. I don't exercise or eat as healthy as I could. Which is why I don't wear a bikini. I have never been to Vegas, and I don't watch porn. Oh wait a minute, I have had alcohol. Crap, I better watch my back. Should I go ahead and turn myself in or just go into hiding?

Kerwyn said...

@ Denise LOL

ChattAnon said...

Besides Tonya, I feel especially sorry for these kids. IF they were molested (I doubt), who was it? IF NOT then they will one day realize the damage they caused by their deceit. Oh the tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

William L. Anderson said...

Yeah, I was in Vegas in 2003, 2006, and 2008 for conferences. I drank beer AND wine. I'm not sure when I had the time to molest children, but since I did the other things, I must have done it.

Of course, I didn't wear a bikini, so maybe I did not molest anyone. Nor do I wear a sports bra when I mow the lawn.

I feel so much better after this confession!

Chattanon said...

OMG!!! what am I going to do? I have a beer or two, I have chased a few skirts in my day, I went to Vegas once!!! Could I be!??? Naaa. lol

Victoria said...

Have you ever gone to the door in a towel??

Anonymous said...

Is Dr. Bernet the last defense witness to take the stand? If so, is Tonya possibly next?

Does anyone know when Tonya is supposed to take the stand?

Victoria said...

Be careful, that was a trick question because if you answered No, its probably because you went to the door in the nude (after molesting kids). Or worse, you went to the door in a bikini!

William L. Anderson said...

I don't know. I'm not sure she did, either.

Anonymous said...

I think Arnt, Gregor and House thought they would show the Catoosa County their version of THE REAL WORLD, but in fact, have found their victim to be a SURVIVOR who has more than one "BIG BROTHER" (Doc, Cary, Scott, Clancy, Melydia, Callie, Bill, Kent, Diana, Sandy, Jennifer, and the list goes on......) looking out for her!
The only question left to ask, in my opinion, is which of the infamous three deserves the title, BIGGEST LOSER?

Kerwyn said...

Chattanon,

The real damage is this. You can lead a child to believe a bad act occurred even if it did not. What is frightening about this is even when the child is shown concrete proof it did not happen, they will still believe it did. Children in that age group are some of the most malleable according to many studies.

In long term research done by the University of Colorado, children who were led to believe a bad act NEVER were able to assimilate that the act didn't happen. They could, once older, intellectually realize it, but would still be at odds with the "memory" of the act.

It is a frightening study into what you can do to another human being's mind.

Let me share this quote with you from the famed McMartin trial to give an an example of how damaging CAC has been to these 3 girls.

"When shown a series of photographs by Danny Davis, the McMartins' lawyer, one child identified actor Chuck Norris as one of the abusers"

By the time these children testified they would have said ANYTHING to continue the fantasy that had been given to them.

I wonder really, what has happened to those children. They would be young adults today. I hope they are doing well.

Lookout Spy said...

Corruption of the soul has no easy cure. The LMJC, the officers of it's courts ( meaning the attorneys, prosecutors, and judges) and the Office of the DA have become so filthy it will take a Hercules to divert all the rivers of North Georgia to flush the accumulated ordure and manure from these Courts similar to the task of Hercule's fifth labor.

"Augeas had a prodigious number of oxen and goats, and the stable in which they were all kept had never been cleaned. The result was a mountain of filth and litter, which not even Hercules could clear away in a lifetime—not, of course, from want of strength, but from want of time. Hercules beheld with disgust and dismay the loathsome and degrading toil in which he was to spend the rest of his days. His other labors had at least been honorable, and befitting a prince: this would have appalled a scavenger.

"It is very good of such a hero as you," said Augeas, "to undertake to clean my stable. It really does want cleaning, as you see: and it was very kind of Eurystheus to think of it. You shall not find me ungrateful. I will give you one ox and one goat in every ten—when the job is done."

This trial will become a legend for decades to come. Buzz Franklin is still hiding in his turtle shell, hoping no one will notice his absence. When Hercules completed his mythic labor, by diverting two rivers to flush the stables clean, the King of Argos, Augeas, who had promised Hercules a tenth of his livestock if he completed the labor in one day, refused to keep his promise, whereupon Hercules slew him, and caused Augeus's son to become the new King of Argos.

The LMJC is sorely in need of such a cleaning, and new leadership; the system needs to be flushed from one end to the other. It will take a Hercules to do it, though. The people will demand no less, so that the disease and pestilence they suffer from under the current monarchy's rule shall be cured. It may take a special task force to accomplish this. Thurburt Baker may have no choice but to step up to the task, as Attorney General of the State of Georgia he will have to defend the numerous lawsuits which are about to be filed. It will be better if he acts proactively in this matter, rather than defensively. I wonder who in the Georgia government is qualified and brave enough to become the Hercules to introduce a bill or legal initiative to appoint special funding for the Judicial Qualifications Commission and the GBI to conduct this task?

Victoria said...

Isn't David Craft supposed to be a witness? What do you suppose he will add?

Denise C. said...

Victoria.... no I haven't. I come out of the bathroom dressed. So, since I have only done one of the "characteristics" of a child molester, does that mean I will only molest one child? How does that work? I think facebook and the man (not even capitalizing them any more) need to clarify what the rule is. Obviously there is a concrete set of rules for this type of things. I need to know this stuff, just in case. Oh my God, I just thought of something, my 80 year old grandma put whiskey in her coffee the few years before she died. Had she become a child molester in her 70's? I also put a two piece bathing suit on my girls when they were babies. GREAT!! I have turned them into child molesters.

Victoria said...

@Kerwyn

I seem to recall seeing a 60 minutes segment with the McMartin kids as older teenagers. If I recall correctly, they realized later that it was fantasy but the damage was done. I will check to see if I can find an online version of the segment.

William L. Anderson said...

Well, court is out, so I guess a troll or two will be checking the blog....

I guarantee you that David Craft would offer more than Suzi Thorne, since he actually would tell the truth. Just think, between Joal Henke and Thorne, we had enough perjury to send both of them to prison for years.

Gee too bad that Facebook and The Man were the ones encouraging the perjury.

Chattanon said...

Kerwyn,
I couldn't agree more. I guess I was trying to point out, that the children are victims here also. They may have "Bad" parents, but they didn't get to choose. I think they have a long road in front of them also.

Lame said...

I noticed that they didn't bring up being gay or bisexual when asking what makes a child molester. I'm glad they didn't. Let the prosecution go down that road and tie their own noose. I've already contacted GLAAD over the things the prosecution has said. With any luck, my message will get through to them and they'll be down there with a lawyer to sue the bejeezez out of the "Three Stooges."

By the bye, did anyone notice the last piece of information on the WRCB live updates today? It says: Court wraps for the day. Dr. Bernet walks over to defense team and asks, "was the jury sequestered?"

I'll bet Bernet did a face-palm when he found out.

lookout Spy said...

Based on Gregor and Arnt's hypothetical non hypotheticals, just about every one of us is a child molester. I've mowed my lawn in just boots and shorts,I've answered my door wearing just a towel, I've had my share of alcohol to drink, I'm certainly not pure and holy as some folks claim to be. I know however, this mockery of justice is a sign of one nasty mess needing cleaned up.

Anonymous said...

Just so everybody knows, the long line of children passing the court room that was tweeted about was my daughter's 8th grade class. Yes, they were on a field trip to learn about their local government. Her comment, "Mom, you should have seen all the news people there!" LOL

Anonymous said...

Wow, the defense team has to fight with one hand tied behind their backs, standing on one foot, and one eye closed, because of House. But, what is funny that they are still winning because the truth is the truth and facts are facts. The pro has nothing but smoke to blow. As for Joal henke, I will never go through a realty that he works for. Nor, will I ever patronize Wilson funeral home.

Victoria said...

I couldn't find the segment, but I found this about one of the McMartin kids:

But Sapp, now known as Kyle Zirpolo, says he never had false memories: He always knew his stories of abuse were made up. The adults at the McMartin Pre-School "never did anything to me, and I never saw them doing anything," he says today. "I said a lot of things that didn't happen. I lied." Why? Now married and with young children of his own, he feels the need to explain publicly....My stepbrothers and stepsisters and a half-brother and half-sister went to McMartin. So did I. I only remember being happy there. I never had any bad feelings about the school--no bad auras or vibes or anything. Even to this day, talking about it or seeing pictures or artwork that I did at McMartin never brings any bad feelings. All my memories are positive.

The thing I remember about the case was how it took over the whole city and consumed our whole family. My parents would ask questions: "Did the teachers ever do things to you?" They talked about Ray Buckey, whom I had never met. I don't even have any recollection of him attending the school when I was going there.

The first time I went to CII [Children's Institute International, now known as Children's Institute, Inc., a respected century-old L.A. County child welfare organization where approximately 400 former McMartin children were interviewed and given genital exams, and where many were diagnosed as abuse victims], we drove there, our whole family. I remember waiting ... for hours while my brothers and sisters were being interviewed. I don't remember how many days or if it was just one day, but my memory tells me it was weeks, it seemed so long. It was an ordeal. I remember thinking to myself, "I'm not going to get out of here unless I tell them what they want to hear." ....
Later my parents asked if the teachers took pictures and played games with us. Games like "Naked Movie Star." I remember my mom asking me. She would ask if they sang the song, and I didn't know what she was talking about, so she would sing something like, "Who you are, you're a naked movie star." I'm pretty sure that's the first time I ever heard that: from my mom. After she asked me a hundred times, I probably said yeah, I did play that game.

My parents were very encouraging when I said that things happened. It was almost like saying things happened was going to help get these people in jail and stop them from what they were trying to do to kids. Also, there were so many kids saying all these things happened that you didn't want to be the one who said nothing did. You wouldn't be believed if you said that.

I remember feeling like they didn't pick just anybody--they picked me because I had a good memory of what they wanted, and they could rely on me to do a good job. I don't think they thought I was telling the truth, just that I was telling the same stories consistently, doing what needed to be done to get these teachers judged guilty. I felt special. Important....

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct/30/magazine/tm-mcmartin44

Anonymous said...

Anyone else see the clip on WRCB at 6 of Arnt turning to the crowd and yelling at them??

What a big frigging BABY!!

Well worth the watch, I turned to my hubby and said, how dare he act like that?

Donna

Anonymous said...

I believe these three men are following these posts every night. I also believe that they think that we are all people that know the defendant and would do anything to help her. That allows them to dismiss our opinions out of hand.

What they fail to realize is that have infuriated people that don't even know the defendant. They have alienated men in their own profession, attorneys and judges alike. They have alienated people in the business of protecting children in the right way. They have let down their neighbors, voters, and supporters.

They just continue on with this farce, with their heads in the sand, knowing that their case is a lie and that they are throwing their careers away in the process.

Hubris is a powerful thing and these men are full of it. The sheriff of Hamilton County was full of hubris and he took a huge fall. From sheriff to the pen for many, many, years. It was a long fall for him and it will be a long fall for you.

Lookout Spy said...

I find it amusing that prosecution is questioning the witnesses as to how much they are being paid, and then the answer is the money actually goes to the institution, ie, Vanderbilt, Emory, etc. The prosecution is attempting to imply that the experts are gaining personally, being "bought". Funny they should stress that when the children are being given toys, spa trips, etc. if they "just tell some more what happened".

Anonymous said...

Mr. Anderson,
Is it good or bad for the defendant that the jury is not sequestered? I feel it's a good thing.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget to BOYCOTT Chattanooga Duplicator Supply Inc. This is Sandra Lamb's father's company and where the money for the magic envelopes comes from. French Newton, you are truly a self righteous, pompous, asshole.

William L. Anderson said...

It depends. I'm not in favor of sequestering juries, as information always gets in one way or another.

My concern is that people from the prosecution might try to contact jurors or their families and pressure them. I have no idea if it has happened and don't want to speculate.

Kerwyn said...

Anon 6:32

It can be good or bad. Bad if they are being swayed by friends of the Lamb/Wilson group, good if they are men and women of honor.

Given how salacious Arnt has made this, I am shocked they were not sequestered.

Anonymous said...

Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't had a "jailhouse informant" testify that Tonya Gates confessed. Luckily she's out on bond.

This trial is a sick joke and I can't wait to see these bastards disbarred, prosecuted, sued, etc., etc. etc.

Great job Bill, keep it up!

Anonymous said...

I would think that trying to contact and influence a juror would land you in jail. It would only take one person of honor to blow that up in their faces. Can you imagine the public outcry. They might even lynch them at night by torch light

Lookout Spy said...

Jurors are not supposed to discuss the case, read or view media accounts, etc, even with their spouses and family. Contacting a juror MOST definitely is illegal. Sequestering a jury is not a bad idea in cases where there is bound to be a high level of media and public interest, as excessive publicity is considered to be possibly influencing the verdict away from the evidence and facts presented properly in the courtroom. Not that that has actually happened. I suspect that jurors pretty much do what they want once they are at home behind closed doors, though.

dmk said...

I think that today's most telling moment was Arnt's turning to the spectators and making his "you can leave" statement which House then backed up.

For those who have courtroom experience, have you EVER seen or heard anything close to that before? With a witness on the stand, an attorney for either side turning his back on the judge, and directly admonishing the spectator gallery with threats I'm assuming he has absolutely no authority to back up, only the judge can do that. Talk about dissing somebody, and a judge at that!!!

Of all the crazy things in this trial, all humor in it aside, is it just me or was this just totally insane?

Anonymous said...

If they are doing what they want, I hope they are reading this blog.

Anonymous said...

House knows who's in charge and he doesn't have the balls to admonish anyone but the defense.

Judge Joke should be his new name.

Anonymous said...

After seeing him in Court I think House looks like Conan O'Brian. Kinda acts like him too.

Anonymous said...

What about Tonya's daughter? If she is not convicted what will it take for her to get her children back?

Anonymous said...

Have you seen Joal Henke's real estate web site?
http://joalhenke.yourkwagent.com/

Under the pics at top right it say's BLACK BELT NEGOTIATOR.
The martial arts teach integrity and honor. Henke is a BLACK BELT LIAR, BLACK BELT ADULTERER, BLACK BELT SCHEMER, BLACK BELT PERJURER, BLACK BELT ABUSIVE DAD, AND A BLACK BELT FOOL.

Anyone that would buy a house at Keller William in Chattanooga from him is supporting his lies.

Lookout Spy said...

@ Anon 7:34, If Tonya is acquitted, and there's proof of perjury performed by the current custodial parents, one would hope that the State/Catoosa DA would have the balls to press charges for perjury. In any event, she will have to file a custody action in Superior Court, petitioning the Court that it is in her daughter's best interest to be with her. DFACS could also find the child has been deprived/psychologically abused and force a change of custody on their own as well...

Catoosa Mom said...

I had an interesting "neighbor" today during the trial in the courtroom. The sketch artist from the AJC (Atlanta Journal Constitution)....He and I had a long convo during the "recess" that Gregor demanded. He was explaining that his editor was dragging his feet on covering this trial, and he was there to kinda see what the "hubbub" was all about....well, let me tell ya...I filled him in. He looked in utter shock! I directed him to your blog to get detail information that I wasn't comfortable discussing with "eyes" everywhere, and he quickly jotted it down along with the Truth for Tonya site....He ended the discussion with, "Im thinking they will be up here tomorrow for sure"! Yay! Just what we need!

William L. Anderson said...

Good work, Catoosa Mom!!!!

William L. Anderson said...

A lot of news outlets are waiting to see what the jury does. If she is convicted, the press will really go after the prosecutors and the judge. If there is an acquittal, nonetheless there will be some room for looking at the case.

As for me, I am on it no matter what. There are prosecutors to turn into the state bar and I will be talking to a lot of people to take a hard, hard look at the CAC. Furthermore, I will be writing on this case, I hope, in some larger venues. No matter what happens, this is not over.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Anderson,

I believe you mentioned that Dr. Aldridge had some connection with the CAC. If so is it possible that she will use her clout to look at their current standards/practices and possibly review prior cases for abuses by their "forensic experts"

KC Sprayberry said...

There's a poll in one of the local newspapers covering Walker and Catoosa Counties. http://www.catwalkchatt.com/ You have to go to the bottom of the page to participate. No need to sign in as I've never registered with this website and I voted. BTW - as of when I posted this link, 78% for not guilty on all charges!

Anonymous said...

Just wanted to know where are Mrs. Lamb and Mrs. Wilson's husbands. We have not heard from them to my knowledge. Would you not think if this happened to your daughters you would be ready to pin someone to a post. Not one word has been said about the husbands and their viewpoints....

Anonymous said...

just voted on CatWalkchatt.com

wonder if the 3% that are voting guilty on all counts are Outhouse, Face, The Man, The Lamb/Newtons, Joal Henke, Sherri Wilson and the McDonalds.

KC Sprayberry said...

Anon 8:36 Non-players who supposedly don't want to get involved or never heard the confessions. I did hear Lamb's husband is divorcing her but attends the trial. Maybe a threat of never seeing his child actress daughter again or a charge of impeding the prosecution kept him from saying what he really knows. Be interesting to hear his side of things. Which might happen after the trial ends and he's shed of his wife!

Anonymous said...

@ ANON 8:36
My husband said that if it were our daughter, he would be in jail held on attempted murder or contempt of court charges.

Their absence and quiteness tells me they do not believe the abuse charges.

William L. Anderson said...

I intend to contact Dr. Aldridge after this trial to see what kind of action can be taken against the CAC. I think that people should sue the Ft. Oglethorpe and the Green House units into oblivion.

These outfits need to be closed down, as they are a menace, and their property liquidated and all of their assets taken. The destruction they have done is unmeasurable.

Anonymous said...

I would say fat (jealous)....wish they could pull off fitness (respect for health). Look like her in a bikini, tankni, short shorts.......Don't we all wish we could lool good?

dmk said...

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has done some good investigative journalism in the past on government corruption and coverups. They probably haven't covered it thinking it's just a run of the mill abuse trial, and in the Chattanooga media market. But, the fallout (investigations, etc) will be centered in the Atlanta media market as well as have statewide and national implications. Here's the email to send them a note requesting them to cover the trial

newstips@ajc.com

Anonymous said...

If you people believe the corruption begins and ends with House, Arnt and Gregor, you are sadly mistaken. I am in no way familiar with judicial oversight commissions (if that's even what they are called), but if a previous post is correct on House's campaign contributers with amounts, I am inclined to believe the price of justice is pretty cheap in NW GA. There were a few $1000 contributions, but most were in the $200s. If these small amounts can influence "impartial" judges, how deep does the corruption run? For $1500 can a next line manager of these people be bought? To me the money is small potatoes, I am more inclined to view these corrupt officials as power mongers. They are addicted to power and influence. With hesitation I asked, "Who among them is clean?" "How many stones must be turned to find honor and dignity in the LMJC?" "Is it not unethical to play the 'go along, to get along' game?"

WAKE UP NW GA!!!!!

If one or three are dirty, they most likely all are dirty.

dmk said...

It is correct, it was cut and pasted directly off State Ethics Commission that I cited.

I'm not naive, and I know better than most how deep the corruption and good old boy system runs, and you are right, it's not just those three. But, all it takes is one bad apple overreaching far enough to generate sufficient outrage to bring down the whole lot, but only if good people will stand strong to hold the one (or three in this case) accountable.

Anonymous said...

Catoosa Mom-I know of another "good ol boy" that needs to be brought down quite a few notches. He's as crooked as the rest of them-he's supposedly a bondsman, his name is Rodney Waters-sack of shit!

Anonymous said...

Anon 8:40
You are correct! I am a father and if my daughter were a victim of sexual abuse, I would be on trial for murder!

Chattanon said...

WRCB TV 3 just showed Arnt making an ass of himself in court today!
I wish i had recorded it...for posterities sake...lol

Heather O. said...

Be aware, NW GA, the Walker Messenger has apparently sold out to House, Arnt & Gregor (now referred to as HAG for the rest of this post). I posted on their site under today's story about the trial. I was, obviously NOT complementary of team HAG. Yet, was not threatening or abusive. Just amused at what fools they are and enjoying watching them lay the ground work for their own demise. Walker Messenger removed my comment and one other extremely short blurb which seemed to state support of Tonya. Nice when the home-cooking extends it's borders to neighboring county's newspapers. That's LMJC for ya!

Lame said...

I just thought of something. The prosecution keeps trying to make something out of Tonya supposedly having sex with her witnesses. Why didn't they make a big deal about Henke having sex with her? They're arguing that the witness is lieing because they are having an affair. By any standard, if someone is having sex with someone and then they break up, that is reason to seek revenge against them. So, if he was having sex with her, and now he can't, by the prosecution's logic, doesn't that also give him a motivation to lie? I wonder why the prosecution didn't hammer them on this point.

Let's see if the prosecution brings up, "Youre lieing for her because you're sleeping with her," with her current husband.

Anonymous said...

I can say that the way this case has been handled, from the moment the girls were found touching each other, to the moment the judge recessed court today, has been so filled with error that there is no way to determine for certain at this point what really happened.

Studies show that when a child is brainwashed into believing they were molested when they weren't, that the brainwashing can rarely be undone. Even if found innocent, and even if she regains visitation rights or even full custody, Tonya will likely not have a meaningful relationship with her daughter, ever. And that is one of the saddest aspects of this whole case.

Anonymous said...

Dang!

We uns up here in the Dark Corner wuz just getting used to the terminology "Nifonged" and now we have to update the lexicon to "Three Monkeyed"!

What a grand scene from Catoosa County!

Anonymous said...

ANON 6:21 -

Thanks for the heads-up...

Just watched the two clips on Channel 3's website and my gosh...

This REALLY IS a three ring circus put on by the "Hayseed Three of Catoosa County" - ROTFLMOA!

Anonymous said...

ANON 9:21 -

Spot on comment and the tragic truth.

Thankfully, this circus will raise the awareness tremendously amongst the similar "rural" judicial circuits and go a long way toward reining in this judicial/CAC abuse.

[and hopefully other kinds of abuse by "the system" - I would be interested in knowing if the LMJC still practices "selective enforcement" of the impaired driving laws...]

Anyone?

dmk said...

Anon 10:01

If "selective enforcement" = "depends who you are"? Absolutely, and it's not limited to impaired driving laws but includes just about anything.

Name withheld to protect the innocent. said...

Dr. Anderson:

I’ve been following your antics for a couple of weeks now. I’ve seen all the lies you have spread, and frankly, I have partaken in the fun…laughing at your expense. But it dawned on me today that there are innocent people being put in the middle of this. You have lied! You have incited violence against innocent people! YOU ARE PUTTING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN HARM’S WAY.

So, you think Tonya Craft is innocent. That is fine. Even if she is “wrongfully” convicted, she will live on, albeit in prison. But what you are doing here, flaming an ignorant public, and knowingly flaming an ignorant public, may cause good people to get hurt, or worse. IF SOMEONE IS HURT, IT IS YOUR FAULT, WILLIAM ANDERSON. THERE WILL BE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS! You, and only you, will have to answer to the God you pretend to worship. We live in a fallen world, man…get over yourself! I pray that you are man enough to admit your faults.

Prayerfully yours,

Name withheld to protect the innocent.

Anonymous said...

Why did the system want to destroy this woman?