Friday, May 14, 2010

The Northwest Georgia Children's Advocacy Centers: Perjury, Inc.

[Update, Friday May 14 1:00 PM]: Channel 12 has interviewed the head of the CAC in Rossville, and -- Surprise! Surprise! -- she is claiming her people did a good job:
The Children's Advocacy Center in Rossville continues to take heat after the Tonya Craft verdict, but those in charge of the center say they had no vendetta against Craft.

Craft's defense claimed there were sloppy interviews and terrible therapy.

C-A-C Director Ione Sells says her employees did their job. She says the center doesn't decide which cases to take to court.

Sells says they expected the heat, and she stands behind her interviewers and therapists.

CAC Director, Ione Sells says, "I don't think it hurts what we do. What worries me is that it hurts the kids, the kids that have been here, the kids that will be here. No parent wants publicity when something like this happens."

Sells says their clients haven't expressed any concern about their services.
Ladies and gentlemen, I hate to say it, but that dog just won't hunt. If the CAC continues to insist that leading questions, failure to document, and outright perjury is the standard procedure for the CAC "interviewers and therapists," then she and the organization are in a lot of trouble.

One important rule in life is that when one is in a hole of one's own making, the first thing to do is to stop digging. Enjoy the fundraiser tonight, folks!

[End Update]

As I continue to dig and research the "justice" system of the Lookout Mountain Judicial District, I must admit that it is like peeling back a really nasty, putrid onion, and as one comes closer to the center, the more rancid it becomes. This is a system in which one lie after another is pyramided upon a base of greed and dishonesty, and because there is no accountability in the system, the players have become so accustomed to having everything go their way.

That is why the Tonya Craft verdict Tuesday was so shocking. Given the prosecution's "evidence" and the outright stunning behavior by prosecutors Chris Arnt and Len Gregor, and "judge" Brian House, a normal, logical person would not be surprised at all that a jury would vote not guilty. However, this IS the LMJD, and when prosecutors in that district have a 98-percent conviction rate, well, a loss is something quite rare. Furthermore, after seeing these monsters in action, I believe I must say the following: They ain't that good, certainly not 98 percent good.

Yet, the prosecutors and the judge were surprised they had lost and in large part, that was because of the role the Children's Advocacy Centers of Fort Oglethorpe and Dalton. Since the community is going to "celebrate" the role of the CAC by having a fundraiser at Willow Tree Farms, I figure this is as good a time as any to commemorate all of those people in the LMJD who have been wrongfully convicted because of testimony from CAC "interviewers."

During the trial, we saw just how "professional" the CAC witnesses really were. When questioned by the defense, they rolled their eyes, shrugged their shoulders, giggled and looked at the prosecutors for help. Not only did they admit to not having read any relevant literature regarding their chosen professions, but they actually reveled in their ignorance.

When someone clearly is ignorant of the basics of their line of work, and that ignorance is exposed, that person usually is embarrassed. However, when Dr. Demosthenes Lorandos demonstrated to the jury and the court that these CAC witnesses were ignorant of the very things for which the prosecution claimed they were "experts," the CAC staffers were proud of themselves.

Yes, self-esteem is not lacking at the Children's Advocacy Centers of Fort Oglethorpe and Dalton. However, veracity, competence, and humility are not found within those walls.

Another thing that is missing with those CAC chapters is honesty. In fact, as I point out in the title, I believe that we should rename the CAC Perjury, Incorporated, or just Perjury, Inc.

Yes, think of the possibilities. They could use Laurie Evans and Suzi Thorne as their poster children, given that both women clearly lied on the witness stand, something that used to be called perjury, but now is called "testimony" by LMJD prosecutors.

Granted, there is a big, big problem with having a strategy of telling lies in court, and it is this: You had better win every time. In the Tonya Craft trial, however, the CAC associates ran over the cliff with the prosecution, but the problem is that the CAC does not have prosecutorial immunity. (To be frank, I don't think prosecutors should have immunity, either, but I don't want to get into that here.)

That is where the fundraiser comes in. I expect to see Buzz Franklin, Chris Arnt, Len Gregor, Brian House, and the Usual Suspects at that "fundraiser" losing money at the craps tables, ogling the "showgirls" in their thongs (or maybe pink leotards), and opening their wallets to support Perjury, Inc.

To be honest (since someone around these parts needs to tell the truth), the CAC is going to need the money to pay some serious bucks to Tonya Craft. Time to pay the piper.

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Lookout Spy said...

This is a repost, and I will repost until Mr. Anderson requests I stop. In order to achieve justice, citizen action is needed, and the only way to do it is by writing the appropriate authorities regularly and consistently.

Ms. Cheryl Fisher Custer
Judicial Qualifications Commission
Suite C
8206 Hazelbrand Road
Covington, GA 30014

Mr. Stephen D. Kelley Chair,and Barry E. Morgan, Vice-Chair of Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of Georgia
Prosecuting Attorneys’ Council of Georgia
Atlanta
104 Marietta Street NW, Suite 400
Atlanta, Georgia 30303-2743

Sally Quillian Yates, United States Attorney
c/o Didi Nelson
LECC Manager
Richard B. Russell Federal Building
75 Spring Street, S.W.
Suite 600
Atlanta, GA 30303-3309

Thurbert Baker Esq.
Office of the Attorney General
40 Capitol Square, SW
Atlanta, Ga 30334



Dear Ms. Custer, Mr Baker, Ms. Yates, Ms. Nelson, Mr. Kelley, and Mr. Morgan,

As a citizen residing within the Lookout Mountain judicial Circuit, I am writing to see about the possibility of the Georgia State Attorney General's Office, and the U.S. DOJ Law Enforcement Coordinating Committee coordinating with the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of Georgia for investigating and prosecuting the official misconduct of the officers of the Court in the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit, as being a pattern and practice to deprive the citizens of the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit of their constitutional rights to fair trial. This pattern and practice extends not only within the criminal prosecutions conducted within the circuit, but civil actions as well, as all four Judges, Judge Wood, Judge Graham, Judge Van Pelt, and Judge House have destroyed so many families by their behaviors and practices. When is the law going to be FOR the people, and not the officers of the Court?
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.
Authorities:
18 U.S.C. SECTION 242
The Government must prove four elements to establish the offenses performed by the Defendants.
First: The person upon whom the alleged acts were
committed must have been an inhabitant of a state, district or territory of the United States.
Second: The defendant must have been acting under color of law.
Third: The conduct of the defendant must have deprivedthe victim of some right secured or protected by the Constitution of the United States.
Fourth: The defendant must have acted willfully, that is, with a specific intent to violate the protected constitutional right.



I urge all of you to act promptly and diligently to see justice is served for the citizens of the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit.

Sincerely, ________________________


Include your name and address below your signature.



This can be used as a form letter. Feel free to copy, paste and mail 4 letters.

Lookout Spy said...

http://www.gajqc.com/news.cfm

Kellie Graham said...

Mr. Anderson, Lookout Spy, Kerwyn, kpb & dmk, I cannot thank you enough for the attention you have brought to this case. While I'm not an integral part of Tonya's team, I have whole-heartedly supported her innocence from the beginning.

2 years ago when the allegations surfaced, I stopped by my friend's house and informed her of what had happened. Neither her nor her nieghbors believed it was true, and this trial has re-inforced that feeling. Sandy Lamb, you can say what you wish even though the judicial system took that right from Tonya, We all know you're a liar.

Dan said...

Dr. Anderson

The onion analogy is very appropriate here. However, what I have found in my research on the CAC, and related "charities" is, when you start pealing the onion, it just gets bigger!

I am certain you are right, once the investigation can get to the core, it will be rancid.

kbp said...

Bill,

After reading that post the first thought that popped up was;

"SO WHAT"

:)

kbp said...

Many states have some immunity for CPS workers; some for any that assist or are contracted; and most all for the public that calls in to report alleged acts.

I know there have been recent rulings reducing that immunity, a big one in the 5th Circut Appeals 1+ year ago.

john lichtenstein said...

The real problem is the lack of adult supervision.

Laurie Evans takes notes and doesn't date or initial them. That's bad. And she treats children she's been ordered by a judge not to treat. Good grief. Since this went on for years it's likely that her CAC has zero quality assurance function! Worse, there is no effective state accreditation or audit process.

Things don't magically work right when you don't check.

Toes said...

Is it worth nothing that Children Advocacy Centers are developed and sponsored by our federal government?

Local CAC's are formed under the direction and training maybe five US Regional CAC's, which are under the direction of the National Children's Alliance, a fully funded division of the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention; which is, of course a divison of the US Department of Justice. Their primary goal is not to advocate for the child abuse victim in emotional or physical recuperation from such abuse. But rather, "Law Enforcement". The more they prosecute, the more money they get.

This website DOJ Grants shows that the Georgia state budget has been awarded over $3 million in grants as of May 2010 from the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention during the Fiscal Year 2010.

It would be interesting to know how much money has been awarded to Georgia over the past few years; and how much of that money was used for LMCAC training and staffing. Why do they need to have fundraisers at all?

Lame said...

I for one have no idea why they would issue a public reprimand. It's kind of like a public tongue floggine. It doesn't serve any justifiable purpose. If someone deserves punitive action taken against them they should be suspended, fired, put in jail, fined, burned at the stake. But, if you have read about American history, you've probably heard about the event in Ben Franklin's life when he was brought before the privy council and publicly reprimanded for the actions of colonists whose interests he represented. Rather than make him fall into line with the government, it was the nail in the coffin for any affinity he had for England, and from then onward worked not to repair the relationship between England and her colonies, but towards American independence. Public punnishment has so often been thought to be an effective deterrant, but in reality they have the opposite effect. It causes those who are already bad to become worse. I would wager money that at some point in the future Graham will be caught doing something much worse than swearing.

Toes said...

There was a typo in my above comment. The Georgia grant amount is over $2 million, not $3 million.

(Maybe they should just hand it over to Ms. Craft)

Lame said...

I also am going to point out something that I commented about rather early on in the trial, the day of opening arguments as a matter of fact. In the past five years there have been several articles published in scholarly journals relating to pediatrics, specifically dealing with adolescent gynocology, that have shown that the majority of people working in centers such as the CAC cannot tell the difference between a hymen that has been damaged as a result of sexual assault or by an accident. In fact, many doctors who have not had specific training can tell the difference. And even some doctors who HAVE had that training cannot tell the difference, and that without knowing the context of the situation could be wrong. So, while the defense expert COULD have been wrong in her assessment the CAC "experts" were far more LIKELY to have been wrong in theirs.

Furthermore, those same journals have had articles that point out that when examining for sexual abuse the examiner needs to view the hymen from more than one angle. The most common position they have a girl lie in is on her back, legs apart. This is the angle that the CAC examiner used. The ONLY position she had the girls lie in. However, the journals point out that this positoin can produce a false positive, because there are naturally-occuring bumps and folds that occur in the hymen that when viewed in that position alone can be mistaken for tears. When viewed with the girl in the position where she is on her stomach, legs drawn under her (I'm trying not to get too graphic here), the examiner can get a better view and better determine the difference. So, because the CAC examiner did not use the more accurate position with any of the girls, any assessment she made has a high degree probability of false identification. Herein is why I have been calling the CAC examiners incompetent, because this information has been out since before they did their examinations, and yet they failed to do so. I wondered aloud in my first post on this topic and I am wondering out loud again, How many people have been sent to prison because an examiner used just one position and mistook a natural occurance with signs of sexual abuse? It is too late to say, "Well, let's examine them now." If there indeed was any sexual abuse, it has long-since healed. And, articles in these journals testify that over time the shape and thickness of a girl's hymen changes, any comparrison of how they appear today with the original photos would be pointless.

These places that examine children for sexual abuse need to be made to keep up-to-date with modern accepted practices and their examiners need to undergo frequent refresher courses. As a teacher I can say that even though I graduated from college in 2002, I have had not one year go bye in which my employers do not require me to continue my education. When so much is on the line with these examinations, would it not stand to reason that these people be required to contine their education as well?

Dan said...

Lame,

Once again you make the astute observation that the people at the heart of this case, didn't care about education or being current in their respective fields.

It is more than sad that these children were interviewed and examined by people who care more about the money their "charity" receives than in doing a good job.

You have illustrated another broken cog in the system that needs to be purged.

William L. Anderson said...

I have been informed that Sarah Bass Henke has taken down her Facebook page, the one with her holding Tonya's daughter. (Most likely Chuck Dupree told her to do it.)

Did anyone get a picture of that page before she did that?

kbp said...

Google or other cache search engines usually have those pages.

kbp said...

Hi Toes!

I suspect the CAC's have funding from more than just one federal source.

Anonymous said...

If you google sarah bass henke - the picture is there - just not tech savy enough to copy it. sorry

Lame said...

I think it is very telling that people would lie and manipulate others while going to church and donning a faux robe of righteousness. I do not live anywhere near the area, and have no friends or relatives I could call up to confirm or deny reports of these things, but if, IF what was said here is true, there was a lot of very UN-christian behavior taking place by members of local churches during this whole affair; from declairing that Tonya is a lesbian in front of a congregation to posting the same on facebook while working for FCA et cetera.

I would like to introduce to you the case which first drew me to the subject of teacher-student relationships. Marsha Mote was the wife of the paster of a church in Kansas. She was also a teacher in a church school loosely associated with that church. There was a girl in that church congregation who was her student. At some point she decided she was not satisfied with her husband's amourous affections and entered a sexual relationship with this 14 year old girl. The relationship was discovered and she resigned her teaching position. The head of the local police was a close relative, and the reverse kind of slip-shod investigation that we saw with Tonya Craft took place. She admitted guilt, but charges were not persued. In fact, she stood in front of her congregation and admitted the relationship, but blamed the whole thing on the girl. Because the girl did not similarly get in front of the congregation and ask forgiveness, she and her family were driven from the church. Eventually, someone in the prosecuter's office found out about the crime and she was charged. The judge gave her probation, on the condition she stay away from children (other than her own, of course). She broke her probation by spending time at a local pool where children were, and the judge then threw the book at her. She is still in prison to my knowledge, and her husband eventually divorced her, because in the end, she was not really repentant.

Why bring up this case? Because what we had there was the EXACT opposite of what happened with Tonya. Just as Mote's church should be ashamed for having shunned the girl who was sexually assaulted, churches involved with the Tonya Craft case who did not stand by an innocent person should be ashamed. In one case a person did wrong and feigned repentance, in the other a perosn did no wrong and tried to prove innocense. One woman destroyed her family, one woman found her family (at least with her husband) brought closer together. I pray that ultimately Tonya and her daughter will be able to heal the wounds that were caused by the actions of other people.

What is to be learned by this, from a religious perspective, is that people will fail you, but God never will. Never tie your faith in Him to the acts of other people in the church. To do so is to have a man-centered religion. Look to Christ and Christ alone for your source of inspiration and faith, and you will never be let down.

William L. Anderson said...

Excellent point, Lame! I agree wholeheartedly. The behavior of a lot of the churches in North Georgia was terrible, and there will be a price to pay for not showing integrity.

I went to Eastwood Church's FB page this morning and found a picture of Sarah Bass Henke holding Tonya's daughter, as though the child were her own. Here is a woman who committed perjury in court in part to be able to kidnap -- no other word suffices -- the child of another woman, and Eastwood Church celebrates that perfidy by putting her picture front-and-center on its FB page. This is revolting.

Lame said...

I'm so tired of hearing time and again that children never lie about these things. But, they do:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Girl-Eight-Tells-Police-How-Two-Boys-10-Raped-Her-In-Hayes-West-London-Old-Bailey-Court-Told/Article/201005215631001?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15631001_Girl%2C_Eight%2C_Tells_Police_How_Two_Boys%2C_10%2C_Raped_Her_In_Hayes%2C_West_London%2C_Old_Bailey_Court_Told

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8680370.stm

This is likely what happened here. The girls were caught touching each other, and so one of them came up with something. That one lie is what started the whole ball rolling. In the end there was probably implanted memory, but it all started from a lie.


In the case in the UK, it's interesting that the girl admitted that nothing happened and that she made it all up, and yet they're still charging the two boys, both under 12 years of age, with rape. Ignorance is when you are uninformed of the truth. Stupidity is when you have been informed but refuse to accept it and continue on in error.

Lame said...

A comment on the above mentioned story from the UK: Tonya Craft acquitted of molesting three young girls, 8 year old girl lies about being raped so she could get candy, and in Kansas a preschool has now reopened after a girl falsly claimed a woman there rubbed her bottom. There are all these government agencies, programs, services, groups and centers to protect children from us, but who is going to protect US from the children?

KC Sprayberry said...

Federal funds and the ease with which some organizations can get them has made for problems in the past. Accountability in this area is extremely lacking, especially in this era of bailouts. Some organizations find themselves with overseers to clean up their act while others, like CAC, seem to have an open checkbook. But like a untended checkbook, those who choose to misuse these funds find their banker (the American people) less than willing to stand for the constant abuses of the system.
These women should face consequences for their gleeful attitude regarding their lack of continuing education. Someone else mentioned they have to keep up continuing education as a teacher every year. Let me tell you, as a writer, not educating myself, whether through organized classes or just plain research into current trends and expectations, I would never sell my work, making me in the IRS a hobby writer. It seems to me that with all the oversight on so many other organizations, CAC, with all their financial support from the federal government, should expect the same. But that's just the opinion of a humble, ordinary taxpayer without any understanding on how anyone at all can receive grants without oversight.

KC Sprayberry said...

Darn. Typo. That's what I get for trying to post while a teen is asking about averages. The sentence should read: I would never sell my work, making me in the eyes of the IRS a hobby writer.

Anonymous said...

Lets leave Eastwood church out of this. These are random pics taken at events at the church placed on the web. There is no blame to be placed on the church. I attend Eastwood and there has been no mention of the trial in our services or leaders of the church trying to influence members to take sides.

Anonymous said...

The prosecution did not meet the burden of prood for a criminal trial, but a civil trial is a entirely different matter. The forensics indicates to me that Tonya Craft did indeed sexually assult these girls.

Anonymous said...

i would like to see sandra lamb take a lie detector test... i totally did NOT buy her story on the news last night...just more lies...

Anonymous said...

I think maybe the children weren't the ones to first bring Tonya into this. From what I have read, it took a long time for the children to go along with this notion. But we must all remember, in a small town, especially when you are trying to promote your daughter's "image" to the degree that the leading mom was...the last thing you want is word to get around that your child has a dirty mind. This will undermind a "stage moms" efforts altogether!! It would taint her "little star". Soooo it HAD to be Tonya.... Whether, they truly convinced themselves, I don't know... Call the whole thing "SELF- preservation"... It's definately one of the most SELFISH examples I have ever seen.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:36
You are an idiot. This lady passed two polygraph tests with no deception whatsoever. This is next to impossible if you are guilty. Let's see if that Lamb woman can pass a polygraph, that would tell it all.

So after fifteen years of being a good teacher, Tonya just broke bad one day and decided to molest some children?
Add to this the extenuating circumstances of the squabble with the parents, etc.

In a civil trial, ALL the evidence would be able to be admitted which would show Henke, Bass Henke, the Lambs, Wilsons, to all be liars instead of being shielded by the judge and prosecutors.

It would be fun to watch.
Like I said you're an idiot.

Anonymous said...

I want to add to my previous post....The children were just being curious children. If any of them were a little "over board" it reflects there home life. (Which again, made it necessary for the parents to pass blame.) I do NOT mean to cast any negative light on these lovely little girls. I think they, like Tonya are victims. Sadly, it will be years before they can process all the ways in which they have been used and abused...

Anonymous said...

7:36....
So you place the word of a nurse with an associates degee over a doctor from Vanderbilt University and a doctor from Emory, (who has testified for the prosecution 175 times and the defense ONLY 15 times. Apparently her history has been to PUT ASBUSERS AWAY NOT DEFEND THEM!) Either you are a new comer and have not researched ANYTHING, or you are friends with these people and CAN"T THINK FOR YOURSELF....

Anonymous said...

Bill, another good article. To Anon. who said the forensics indicated to them, guilt. Are you serious? What forensics, those made up by inept investigators? Give it up, she didn't hurt those children. It started as child on child and escalated from there, by whacked out parents. By the way, what part of Sarah Henke showering with a child who isn't hers, do you think is right?? And, how about the mother who whipped her child with a belt, mulitple times, because she caught her with the other little girl. What part of that isn't child abuse? Both of these actions were admitted to on the stand, under oath!!!! Perhaps, if those from CAC had acted like mature, professional adults while on the witness stand, they might have been believable. Perhaps, if they had the education and training to back up their findings, they might have been believable. Now, that the trial is over, everything that the court kept of of the trial that the defense wanted to present, can now be told. I for one can't wait to hear it!!

Anonymous said...

Sarah Henke is young and has been sucked into this man's (15 years her sr,) web of deceit. I know she has done some unwise things, but she is brainwashed by Joal too. A 27 year old is barely out of college and he has had years of experience deceiving people. Pray for her, that she can begin to see reality and start making wise choices for herself and her baby. She could be our daughter.....She is so young.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:36, In a civil trial, Tonya's 2 PASSED polygraphs would be allowed. Wolf, I mean, Lamb would probably never take one!

Anonymous said...

sos.georgia.gov is the website to file complaints regarding licensed professionals in Georgia, whether it be for substandard care, license violations, etc. It's completely online, no mailing or faxing, and you look up the professionals name and get the information for the complaint form. Just sayin', in case yall wanted to know....

Anonymous said...

Let me add to Anon 7:57.
The little actress was masturbating to climax at school. It was in her teacher's testimony. The teacher called SL and discussed it. SL must have needed an excuse for her little star. But, let me tell you. A little girl can find a way to masturbate to climax without being instructed by an adult. I know it because "I" did!

Anonymous said...

Yes, she is young, but what part of showering with a child that isn't hers, is she not old enough to understand. Good heavens, I never would have done that in my 20's!!

I for one can't wait to see what happens when that info is brought out in the custody hearing!

And yes, all the info the judge wouldn't let the defense tell, will be allowed in a civil trial, so not sure these "victim" want to go there!

dmk said...

Although I think Tonya will eventually own them, I would like to see the CAC go down before then. When I say go down, I mean totally cease to exist in its current form. They may serve a good purpose in some ways, and may have actually done some good in some cases, but their failings here were so profound that just pushing for reform of the existing entity is not enough. They need to be taken out and then let a replacement spring up that is committed to professionally working toward their stated goals, not what we saw here.

The list of tasks is long for our budding local group, and where the consensus will be to first focus our efforts is a discussion that hasn't taken place yet, but the CAC has played a huge role in this because they have been the suppliers of the crap the prosecutors have been selling. I'm not sure what we can do about that on a local level, but it will be studied and researched.

Does the CAC have any type of Citizens Review Board or anything of that nature? I read in another post somewhere that the Hamilton Co court system I think it was has a Citizen Review Board and I believe establishing those in the LMJC would be a very worthy goal.

Anonymous said...

To the earlier anon poster, there was NO physical evidence, which would be fine if at least the girls' stories had meshed, but that too was not the case. The girls said time & time again that nothing happened. They were led by their mothers & one by her father & step-mother. Those words were spoken by these children. These are the facts of the case & it is very simple. Others keep trying to make it more complicated, but if you take out the grandstanding, the perjury, the inept interviewers, the constant barrage of the words narcissit, thongs, bikinis, drinking, puking, sports bra, workout shorts, fitness instructor & so on, the prosecution had no case whatsoever. They had 2 years to present something other than character assassination & lies, but did not, because there was NO evidence.

Bill, did you read Kaye's comments last night regarding Phil Summers' interview on Judy O'Neil? He didn't even have his lies in order. He claimed that detective Keith was the one in the interview room when the "revelation" happened off camera. Hmmmm. Det. Keith had recused himself from the case before even the first interview took place. Then of course, Deal was the one who took the stand the day after Suzi Thorne & professed it was him in the room & that's where the falsified documents came into place. I am going to call & see if I can pay for a tape of the show. I'm also going to let Melydia know about it. It will help with their story on the corruption angle they are taking. I'm sure Dr. Lorandos would love a copy.

Also, I wanted to remind everyone to donate what you can to the fund set up for Tonya at Cornerstone Bank so they can get the transcripts. It is a very important tool for them & they need them as quickly as possible.

Anonymous said...

I didn't donate much, but it will buy some pages of that $21,000 transcript. It felt good to give to a great cause!

Anonymous said...

Hey dmk, it was I that told of the CRB in Hamilton County yesterday & yes it exists. I used to keep up with their reports & recommendations & the responses from the judges. As I said, the Chattanoogan was where I would read them. They are pretty good about putting things like that on their site. It was funny because someone actually made a complaint about the CRB one time. They were eating at a downtown restaurant & had parked in a handicap spot. They had taken one the other participant's car & had forgotten the hanging permit. One of the fellows is handicapped, but someone had posted a comment that they thought they were above the law. I laughed a little because it's people like that who ruin a good organization like the CRB.

Do you live in the LMJC? If so, would you be interested in forming one? I am looking into the requirements and am in a position now that I could participate. If anyone is interested in this district, I wouldn't mind organizing it.

As far as the Lamb interview last night, it reminded me of Susan Smith. Idk if everyone remembers her, but she is the SC woman who drove her 2 young sons into a lake about 15 years ago. I remember the body language, the shaking of the head in the opposite direction of what she was saying as "truths", the darting of the eyes & the fake crying. The fake crying reminded me of Jerry McDonald though. It was his tone of voice & even though you couldn't see his face, you could see his head movements. They too were in the opposite direction of what he was trying to affirm. Yes, Psychology with body language is a funny thing, but it is used quite often in cases. In fact, after the Susan Smith press conference is when they knew she was lying. Just a thought for people.

Anonymous said...

I missed the SL interview. Who interviewed her??

Anonymous said...

Did any of you see Sherriff Summers on UCTV's Night Talk last night?

Anonymous said...

Cache of facebook:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MOXXrhSm7PYJ:www.facebook.com/people/Sarah-Bass-Henke/100000197467602+Sarah+Bass+Henke&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Anonymous said...

9:05, every little bit counts. If you think about the amount of people who followed this case & believe in Tonya, we could get less than a dollar per person & over-reach the goal.

Andre, from WGOW said it best the other day. He said, you have to believe that there were at least 500,000 people all over the country watching this & if each of those people donated $1, we could recoup just the money she spent on her defense & her parents could pay off their house, again & she could use the money now to fight for her children.

After what Henke pulled yesterday, saying that those children have flourished with he & Sarah, I almost threw up. It will all happen in time and my only fear is they will be brainwashedd even more before the first hearing. UGH!

sandy said...

<< Anonymous said...
The prosecution did not meet the burden of prood for a criminal trial, but a civil trial is a entirely different matter. The forensics indicates to me that Tonya Craft did indeed sexually assult these girls.

May 14, 2010 7:36 AM >>

anonymous 7:36,
the forensic results indicate to YOU that Tonya assaulted those children?? really? and your degree that makes you an expert in forensic science came from WHERE??
what exactly do you know as FACTUAL that would make you come to that conclusion? please enlighted the 98% of people who believe tonya to be innocent.

the custodial parents of the accusers thought they could destroy tonya's life through their devious plan that came from their very demented imaginations. they indoctinated the minds of their own children in order to make their story plausible.

i hope and pray that each and every person responsible for all tonya has endured these past two years will be held accountable and punished severely.

Anonymous said...

Lamb interview, Summers observations for the prosecution, and I believe Miriam Boyd's earlier post on "positive" forensic evidence are all failed attempts at damage control.

This phase of the fallout is like roaches scurrying from the light.

dmk said...

Anon @ 9:12 re Citizen Review Board

Yes, I do live in the LMJC, and I am very much interested in forming one. How do you suggest we get in contact and move forward from here? Have you touched base with KC Sprayberry yet to give your contact info? I know our group is growing and would love to have you on board, and getting Citizen Review Boards formed is exactly the type of thing we are hoping to do.

Anonymous said...

Lets not forget about Dirty Deal, he is the one that brought this to court...

Anonymous said...

WAtch the full video of Lanb's interview on WRCB and watch her eyes in the interview and then remember this
Looking up to the right. Looking up and to the right stimulates the part of the brain associated with imagination (that is, making things up), whereas looking up and to the left stimulates the part of the brain associated with recalling memories (that is, telling the truth).

Anonymous said...

Oh and don't get your hopes up that the fbi will do anything about this. the agent up here is best buds with Gregor and Arnt.

Anonymous said...

How about a fundraiser for everyone who has been victim of this unjust judicial system??

Clark said...

I got the picture! But don't know how to post it here!

Anonymous said...

dmk, can you post KC's email again & I will email her. I've been meaning to & I thought I had it on my list of contacts, but it wasn't there. Guess I forgot to hit the magic save button. I actually know a great deal of the people involved, directly & indirectly. I've had a lot of experience with this system here & actually as the victim, but the system was abused. In the end, justice was served, but it was a nightmare. I also have very close relations with Poston (dbag as I call him) & have a lot of valuable info. It has always been a joke in the tri-state area that instead of "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" it's "six degrees or less of 'insert my name'". So if you could post KC's email again, that would be great. That way I don't have to go back & dig it up off of previous threads.

Thanks so much & I look forward to working with you all!!!

Kerwyn said...

One of the interesting things that has struck me in this case is the sheer lack of oversight of THAT CAC.

I say the word that in capitals because there are indeed CAC's that are incredibly professional and they hold their staff to a high standard of education and performance.

To the folks who are local citizens, I would like to point out to you that you could be next. Make a child mad at you and all of a sudden "he touched my bottom and my breasts". That is all it will take for these prosecutors to put you in prison for a long time, make you a registered sex offender and destroy the rest of your life. It won't matter if the child recants.


I see many cases of "sexual assault" a year as a SANE. Of those, close to 75% are false. Yes, False! I could spend hours regaling the tales I have listened to.

Let me give you an example of how far some people will go. A patient presents to the ER with palm size bruises covering her entire body and I do mean covering, head to toe. Patient states soon to be ex husband (whom she is in a bitter custody fight with) accosted her as she walked home from work (in 4 inch high heels)while she took a short cut across an open field (in 4 inch high heels). According to the patient, he beat her, choked her and raped her, and told her to drop the custody fight or he would kill her.

Upon beginning my exam, I asked the patient to disrobe one piece of clothing at a time (per evidence collection). Once the patient was disrobed, I asked her to climb up on the table. It was at that point I noted she had not ONE mark from her shoulder blades to just above the waist line.

Now given the story of being knocked to the ground, sat on, choked, raped (in an open field on the dirt) this raised some red flags for me.

The end of this story? She had done it to herself. Beaten herself, wrapped panty hose around her neck and choked herself (bad bad ligature marks on her throat), claimed rape (yes she had injured herself there too with an object) all to set up her soon to be ex so she could get custody and a nice fat paycheck.

People will go to the most amazing extremes to "get even". Extremes normal thinking people cannot even imagine someone else doing. It is not so great a stretch for me, to see exactly what these parents did and it is even less of a stretch for me to see the why.

If you add into the mix, ill educated (or not educated at all) quasi-professionals who are agenda driven ("all women who claim rape have been or no children make false claims"), a prosecutors office more interested in making that 100% conviction rate than in really doing their job which is seeking the truth and stir in a police force that is also untrained and willing to be dishonest to bolster the prosecution and you have what happened.

If just one person, for instance the SANE, had been appropriately trained and had the conviction of honor and honesty on their side, this SANE would have told them, normal exams.

Oh I am sure Arnt and crew would have then pulled out the national statistics that MOST molestations leave NO SIGNS (read that) NO SIGNS of abuse. But see, the little actress related such a violent attack there would, most likely, have been very visual damage. Not to mention bleeding and discomfort (none of which happened). If an adult were to violently stuff ALL there fingers into a child's vagina and rectum, I assure you, there would most likely be, at the least, bleeding, discomfort if not a truly damaged or missing hymen.

I won't even add in the multiple, leading interviews, the blatantly incompetent "counselor" and "I ain't got no degree and proud of it" interviewer and the list goes on...

This is common sense. This does NOT take a degree to figure out.

What a travesty.

Kerwyn said...

Clark,

DO NOT post ANY picture with a young girl in it. That is inappropriate!

Hugs

KC Sprayberry said...

kathispray@yahoo.com. I'll redirect you to an email address that I don't want trolls and spammers to know about from there. And yes, I'm about ready to get into the hard planning stages. Any info about creating a CRB is welcome. At this point, it's our best bet.

KC Sprayberry said...

During research this AM, ran across a very interesting PDF copy of a magazine. http://www.pacga.com/downloads/magazines/Georgia_Prosecutor_Magazine/the_georgia_prosecutor_2008_single.pdf

No gagging but I'm sure protests will come loud and clear as soon as everyone reads through the articles.

1. Chris Arnt receiving his 'such a great prosecutor' award.

2. How prosecutors statewide support Rainbow House. This particular place was recently the subject of an expose in the Atlanta Constitution Journal for not obeying standards and possibly having a connection to violent acts by the children there.

3. CAC and its importance to the community. (Make sure you aren't drinking anything while reading this one. It's darned hard to clean Coke off a monitor.)

4. And the most important as far as I am concerned. How since 2002, prosecutors are now responsible for determining conflict of interest. WHAT? WHY? Who was asleep in the capitol when this got passed?

Just a bit of light reading before I have to get into work. Guess I'll skip lunch today. My stomach can't handle anything after reading this self-serving drivel from DA's across my state.

Anonymous said...

To Anon 8:19am

Sarah Bass Henke may be young, but she in NOT that young. We are not talking about a naive, easily-influenced teenager. She is pushing 30 and is responsible for her own actions.

Before she made her Facebook wall private, we were able to see her taunting Tonya. In my opinion, all of her comments were made to rub salt into Tonya's wounded heart.

Nothing is sweeter than tucking your children in at night... Kohl sent me back to my room, so that he could make me breakfast for Mother's Day...I am so loved...

These are the words of a spiteful GROWN woman.

Yes, I do feel sorry for her, but not for the reasons you suggest. She needs to actually read and absorb the scripture she quoted.

duaneh1 said...

However, the journals point out that this positoin can produce a false positive, because there are naturally-occuring bumps and folds that occur in the hymen that when viewed in that position alone can be mistaken for tears

Hey Toes, nice to see you in this neck of the blogosphere.


I'm sorry but it seems that these so-called "sex assault" and SANE examinations where the alleged victims are poked and prodded in their most private areas so ambigious as to be useless in the absence of obvious signs such as brusing, bleeding, semen, etc.

I have to wonder if they are any more accurate than the methods used long ago to determine if the accused was a witch.
To settle the question of Tonya's innocence once and for all, how about we toss her into a lake, if she sinks she's innocent, if she floats then she is guilty. Or we can stick her hand in pot of boiling water, if her hand heals within 4 days she's innocent, if not she's guilty. Such methods are probably just as as accurate as "modern" methods using forceps, prongs, and other such instruments.

Clark said...

Kerwyn, I didn't think of how that sounded when I said it. Bill asked if anyone had gotten the picture, and I have it... You are correct, it would be very wrong to post it on the web!

Sorry for misspeaking!

tpc said...

Ok..here's my opinion, even if it isn't worth much. Let me say first that TONYA CRAFT IS INNOCENT. Now with that being said, Sandra Lamb can "know" Tonya did it all she wants but when she speaks it outloud it is slander. SL needs to get over it and be construtive instead of destructive. If she believes in her heart that Tonya did this, would she too not want to see the House of Horrors reprimanded? After all, they did her child wrong. If her child was adequately represented Tonya wouldn't have been found innocent...right? Then why not reach for a common goal and let it be about the children. It is about not only SL's child but other children who may be in the same place. Other children need representation so why not go after the HAG's if you feel wronged by the prosecutors for not prosecuting? Again, I have supported Tonya from day one, sat in the courtroom and cried tears of joy when I heard the verdict, but I don't see how any mother that believes whole heartedly that someone abused her child would not put her words into action. SHUT UP and PUT UP SL. Quit bad mouthing Tonya and find out how to make others lives better. If you can't do that then....well... we know what kind of woman you are...never mind...

Anonymous said...

7:36...Can you share what "forensics" you are talking about? Maybe we followed 2 different trials??? tplas

Anonymous said...

10:53.....I completely agree with you. Sarah Hanke knows EXACTLY what she is doing. If she was a God fearing Christian woman/mother as she proclaims, she would NEVER post the things she did on her FB page about Tonya's children. They are TONYA'S children....NOT hers. Sarah...you need your head examined if you think it's appropriate to shower with Tonya's daughter and shave yourself. I never in my life would ever consider doing this with or in front of my daughters. And WHY did you take your facebook page down? What do you have to hide if you and your KINKY husband Joel haven't done anything wrong?! By the way, do you know where your husband's porn is??

Harmony said...

anon 11:31 Sarah knows exactly where his porn is she stars in most of it.

Anonymous said...

Actually, whatever other motivation Sarah had, making her Facebook page private was the right thing to do because it also protects the children. Your FB page will allow others to see your family, your activities, your friends... and through that their families, etc. This is about protecting children and making FB private is a way to do that. All of you who are FB Friends of the people being named in these posts will want to visit your privacy settings on FB. At least make them so "only friends" can see your information.

Anonymous said...

I think it ironic that Sarah made her FB private only after the verdict. She had no qualms flaunting Tonya's children when she thought there would be a conviction.

dmk said...

duaneh1

You are absolutely right, the methods used for these cases are reminiscent of those foolproof methods of old to determine who was a witch. Basically, you're guilty and harmed, or, you're not guilty and harmed. Either way, just the accusation means you are facing a very severe situation. I know sexual abuse occurs, and it is an especially heinous crime. But, somewhere along the way, our society bought into the end justifies the means when "it's for the kids" just the same as it was historically for serving God by "protecting" the community from witchcraft, heresy, etc. I think one must balance these things against the benefit for one versus impact on many. The injustice of putting an innocent individual in prison aside, what has been the harm to our society and it's children by making all of us scared to be part of the community that is contributing to raising those children by being coaches, youth leaders, the involved and caring parents of a best friend, etc, etc? Is the damage to our society in terms of how we look at the risks of any situation where children are involved worth the chance that somewhere, sometime a child may be abused and the deed go unpunished? It's kind of a cold way of looking at it, but in my opinion the rights and what's best for the many must always be taken into prime consideration when discussing what to do about the few.

I don't know if Tonya making it her mission in life to speak out on this subject can start to change that or not, but I think she is on the right track by using the "it's for the kids" line of thinking, only looking at it from the other side of what false accusations do to children.

Finding ways of punishing the guilty while holding paramount protecting the innocent is a very difficult subject since you are dealing with children and all that entails, but in this day and age, it seems like we could do better.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what the steps to pursue perjury charges would be against several witnesses?

Anonymous said...

Does any one know if there is an alternative way to donate to the fund set up at Cornerstone Bank? I haven't used a checkbook in a couple of years!

Harmony Edwards said...

They have a paypal account truthfortonya@gmail.com is the paypal address.

William L. Anderson said...

Perjury is rarely pursued in court, although I suspect that had the jury returned guilty verdicts, Arnt and Gregor would have charged Tonya AND David with perjury just to pile on.

For all of their talk, had they tried to charge Dr. Nancy Aldridge with perjury, they would have been in real trouble.

William L. Anderson said...

I need to make one correction. Sandra Lamb called Eric Echols a "black bastard," not the N-word. It is on recording.

Nonetheless, it might be something to investigate: hate crime under federal law.

Anonymous said...

Sandra Lamb is pure EVIL!!!!

kbp said...

CAC Director, Ione Sells says, "I don't think it hurts what we do."

What a relief that gives me!

I hope all that live in the area there feel much safer now!

>>>puking smilie<<<

Anonymous said...

Take heart people who live in LMJD, I know a couple of people serving on the current Grand Jury there. They will be looking at evidence brought to them by these players long and hard before issuing a true bill. They understand that the process is tainted and cannot trust the judgement of the detectives and adas. It is just the beginning...

Anonymous said...

When I first heard of the accusations re Tonya Craft this trial came to mind it was a witch hunt, literally.

McMartin Preschool Trial

Another example of lying, ineptitude.

Here is a quote from one of the accusers now an adult:

In 2005 one of the children (now an adult) retracted the allegations of abuse.:
"Never did anyone do anything to me, and I never saw them doing anything. I said a lot of things that didn't happen. I lied. ... Anytime I would give them an answer that they didn't like, they would ask again and encourage me to give them the answer they were looking for. ... I felt uncomfortable and a little ashamed that I was being dishonest. But at the same time, being the type of person I was, whatever my parents wanted me to do, I would do."

Children DO lie and there is no doubt in my mind that the CPS workers KNEW of this trial and the eventual outcome. Anyone who has been trained in sex abuse issues had to know of this. It was stated on the Today Show that children don't lie, that was IMO another LIE but why? Other than the federal $s why would a so-called professional outright lie in regard to this case on tv?

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone feel the need to be friends with Sandra Lamb?You would have to be brain dead.Crazy.

Anonymous said...

on Channel 9 facebook:
I've heard that your station was going around to Tonya's neighbor's and saying that she was a molester,will you comment on this? I don't believe this, because even if you believed it was true, it could mean a big lawsuit for your station. It's just what some ppl are saying that your station did.

their reply:
not true. It is true that one national blogger has pointed the finger of "biased" blame toward us. However our reporting has been fair and balanced.
On the other side of the coin, most recently some have blamed us for being biased toward Ms. Craft.
We often joke in the newsroom that as long as we are making both sides equally mad, apparently we are indeed, reporting both sides equally.

On the day the story broke, we gave neighbors the opportunity to speak on camera about the charges. We absolutely did not call her "a child molester." Those allegations are 100% completely untrue. No one we spoke with chose to speak about the charges on camera. & that is a shame, because anyone who believed her to be not guilty - as a jury has just... See More decided her to be - missed a great opportunity to help frame the story from the outset. Had anyone chosen to speak with us then in her defense, we absolutely & without question would have used their soundbites in our story.

William L. Anderson said...

Fair and balanced? Where have I heard that before?

When someone is accused of being a child molester and you send out cameras and reporters in the neighborhood, you are making a statement even if you don't outright call the person a molester. This is equivocation, period.

KC Sprayberry said...

Uh, not to set the flames rolling again, but has anyone found the Channel 9 video of the overeager reporter buffaloing the principal about firing Tonya Craft - the day of her arrest? Now, (and I can't remember her name at the moment) the principal did say there was a process to go through. But that reporter was very insistent and may not have said the actual words, but her actions and questions can be construed as calling Ms. Craft a child molester. That video is on YouTube but I've lost the link. I do believe our Bill right here posted that link at some point.

Anonymous said...

Shortly after Tonya was arrested I was getting a haircut and overheard Sandra Lamb telling everyone in the place that Tonya had molested her daughter. I thought to myself that this was unusual behavior for a mom thats daughter was molested. No attempts to protect her privacy just a rant about what Tonya had done and that she was going to pay. It sounded more like someone trying to form a posse and hand out torches. It just made no sense. When I saw her on TV saying how God was on her side and not on Tonya's side and Tonya was going to have to pay, I threw up in my mouth a little. I was glad that I told her I thought Tonya was innocent while getting my haircut. She told me that it was her daughter that was molested and that Tonya was going to pay. She told me I didnt know her family but they were powerful and they could make things bad for Tonya. They were going to buy her house and bulldoze it down. I could tell she was obsessed with making Tonya pay and watching her on the news last night she is still at it. Even though Ms Evans was exposed as a fraud, Ms Lamb still takes her daughter to her for counseling. If that was my daughter and I was rich and powerful,instead of buying the house that Tonya lost, I would have stopped one of the Defense teams real experts and had them speak with my daughter and get her some real help. Instead she is still trying to slam an innocent woman and is not getting her daughter help that now she needs or even better help that she needs. The Prozac's not getting the job done.

kbp said...

Anon 1:11

Where did you see this reply from Nine, what story or link?

Anonymous said...

During Sandra Lambs interview I was waiting for Miriam Boyd to pop up from behind the sofa.Ha ha!

Anonymous said...

Sandra Lamb is evil in the worst way.That is what scares me the most.

Anonymous said...

Why are we calling the church Eastwood? Is it not Oakwood?

chattanon said...

It is my belief , that by the end of the trial, with all the "noteriety" the trial and Prosecution had gotten, the prosecution was actually hoping for a not guilty verdict, thinking they always account for the trial loss, vs being accountable for their actions.

PitOwner said...

calliestarnes

I don't use the word lightly - another @WRCB exclusive tonight. This breaking news will make you see #TonyaCraft trial in a whole new light.

William L. Anderson said...

KC, I had the Youtube link in my first post on the case. Here is the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnnUfHK_3Q

As you can see, the reporter calls the children "victims." That was all I needed from Channel 9 to forever hate them.

William L. Anderson said...

I wish that were the case -- the the prosecutors wanted to lose. These guys are not smart enough to realize their own vulnerability. They have come to believe themselves to be Great Prosecutors, and they never thought about the consequences of their actions.

Anon said...

The churches need to be left out of this.

Anonymous said...

Who is being interviewed on WRCB tonight?

Mad as Hell in Catoosa Co said...

Is the CAC director serious? That article made me absolutely livid. Perhaps we need to flood her office with phone calls of our complaints. What a complete disgrace to her profession. As a recent "client" of the Ft. O CAC, she will definitely hear from me.

Anonymous said...

I would love to know if any more closed door meetings have taken place between Mrs.Bradley & the four lovely families.

Dan said...

This comment on the channel 12 article about the statement the CAC made is especially poignant.

Doesn't hurt what we do????
Submitted by Guest (not verified) on May 14, 2010 - 12:34pm.
Is Mrs (Ms) Sells insane? This ABSOLUTELY hurts what the Fort Oglethorpe CAC does. You are operating an agency that the public comes to in faith and trust to help our children.

I brought my son to your agency within the past 2 months and he was "interviewed" by Hollie Nave Kittle. I have quotations around interviewed because it lasted all of 5 minutes and he refused to talk to her. So much for that "special training". Had I had any idea that she was not "specially trained" as a forensic psychologist the way she was portrayed to me by the Catoosa Co DFCS and Detective Keith, I would NOT have allowed her anywhere near my child. Like Ms Craft, I also have a bitter ex-husband and can not afford to have INCOMPETENT "professionals" handling my child's care. Trust when I say that if anything other than the truth comes of my DFCS case, I will persue the Ft. Oglethorpe CAC with all the fury a truely protective mother can posess. Hell hath no fury like I will bring down upon your agency. Her behavior inside and outside that courtroom was utterly unprofessional and a disgrace to your agency.

Has it even occurred to the people that planned your fundraiser this weekend that they will be exhibiting the same behavior (Vegas, alcohol, and showgirls in thongs)the ADA's attempted to use against Tonya Craft to prove her as a child molester? Using the logic of the ADA's, one could assume that everyone in attendance at your fundraiser, as well as everyone associated with the planning, is also a child molester. Not to mention the timing of the fundrasier? Once again, a complete and utter disgrace.

Mrs (Ms) Sells, if you truely believe this case has not hurt your mission or called into question your agency's ability to fulfill that mission, perhaps, ma'am, the problem starts with you.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:11 The churches need to be left out of this.

Oh? Because?

Anonymous said...

Sandra Lamb is truly mental,there is not enough Prozac in the world for this nut job.

Lame said...

Channel 9 needs to change their name to "Channel Slime."

Yeah, I like how in the first interview they did the mother of the "victim" says, "I know there's a bigger purpose in all this for her." Yeah, like getting a big fat insurance settlement....


Anyway, I just wanted to bring to your attention an interesting poll on Channel 12's website:

http://wdef.com/was_justice_done_in_the_tonya_craft_verdict

Apparently, 84% of the people who responded (that's 800 people so far) believe that Tonya was innocent and/or the investigators and court officials who handled this case should be investigated. Only 25 people think she was guilty, and 20 people think she manipulated public opinion and the media to get her off, which is interesting considering that the foreman has stated that none of the members of the jury allowed themselves to view such material.

Any more word on that supposed interview with a second juror that Channel Slime conducted?

Before the verdict I saw a tweet that one of the people on the witness list who was not called gave an interview that wasn't shown, because the gag order was still in place during deliberation. That interview hasn't aired, to my knowledge. I'd like to know what was said.

Mad as Hell in Catoosa County said...

Dan,

That was my comment on Channel 12's site. Sorry for the typo's. :) That article absolutely made my blood boil and it was difficult to type thru the outrage.

I initiated the DFCS case and immediately after regretted that decision. I did it to protect my family from the lies and manipulation my ex is well known for. Now I see I may have done more harm than anything by getting them involved. My son had an accident and my ex tried to say my new husband hurt my child. I know for a fact he did not. That's all I can say about the situation without revealing my identity since it is an ongoing case.

Sound familiar? As Tonya has stated multiple times, I absolutely belive this can happen to anyone, for I could easily be the next one in the court room. It's been 3 weeks and we are still waiting on a response/decision.

William L. Anderson said...

To the 2:14:

Obviously, I am not at liberty to say, but I think it is an important one. The person who was interviewed contacted me first and we discussed what to do and say, etc. This person is very believable and is someone who is good and decent.

Ironically, I will miss the broadcast because I am in the Cumberland Choral Society and we will be giving our spring concert tonight: Faure's Requiem.

PitOwner said...

calliestarnes

I just called ADA Chris Arnt and Len Gregor again. I will call every day until they take my call. #TonyaCraft

Anonymous said...

I think Mrs.Boyd's walking buddy kicked her to the curb.Maybe some have saw the light.

Dan said...

@Mad,

Ma'm I can only empathetically imagine how you must feel. I pray that your life is not harmed any more than it already has.

That agency (and others there) desperately needs serious change and oversight at the very minimum. It is people like you, who have the courage to speak out so eloquently, that will turn that dire need into a reality.

Harmony said...

Hey the churches can be brought into this. When Miraim Boyd's daughter was running her mouth on facebook and I brought her down a peg or two, the youth pastor for Oakwood berated me by saying Adults arguing with teenagers that's just sad. If the Boyd girl didnt want somebody to respond then she shouldnt have said something. They just have their panties in a bunch cause they got called out in a intelligent and thought provoking way. Sorry but if they continue to say things like what Miriam did then they are opening themselves up for a confrontation. You know what I say don't dish it if you can't take it.

Anonymous said...

I keep looking at the stories on Channel 9's website. It is like a horrific car wreck. You can't help but stare at it in disblief. Frightening really.

Anonymous said...

Woa, wait a second. I was just watching the Sandra Lamb interview, and she said that the daughter first told her. In the trial we heard that she first told an interviewer. Hmmmmm.

Look at her body language, shows she has attitude, the way she talks while shaking her body. She's also holding an object, a dog, in her lap while speaking. That indicates that she is trying to protect herself, that she's holding back and being defensive. Her daughter said that when she dies she's going to be an angel for all the other girls who are molested? I highly doubt that an 8 year old girl would say this. She wonders aloud if there is a god, then says that God is on her side. Yeah, I didn't believe her on the witness stand, and I don't believe Sandra Lamb now.

Anonymous said...

The boyd family is just as bad as Sandra Lamb.I was on facebook that night & yes the Boyd girl was running her mouth big time.See why we do not want these people around our kids.

William L. Anderson said...

Well, we know that Lamb lied when she said her daughter had not taken acting lessons. Indeed, House refused to let the child's IMBD resume be entered as evidence. So many lies, so little space to expose them!

Anonymous said...

I'm going to guess the interview is with the Bradley lady...your former student. tplas

William said...

This from Melody Day c/o Kristen Bradley quote on facebook...

This "quote" is not, and has not been, on Ms. Bradley's facebook page. She and our entire staff have all acted in a professional manner, cooperated in every way, remained neutral and truthful. Our complete focus has been on our students and their academic achievement, safety
and well-being. Additionally, Ms. Bradley does not accept gifts which
would be a violation of the educator code of ethics.
I very much appreciate you forwarding this information and allowing me to address the misconception.

Melody Day

Anonymous said...

Eastwood is the Church the Henke's attend.

Trish White said...

Anon. 2:38 I am so sorry for what you are going through. I hope you have a good attorney. Good luck.

Victoria said...

The cockroaches are scurrying:

WTVC-TV NewsChannel 9 News Developing: The prosecutors of Tonya Craft, Len Gregor & Chris Arnt, have broken their silence. Tonight on NewsChannel9 at 5 & 6, NewsChannel9's John Madewell asks them the tough questions. What do they have to say for themselves? You'll hear their answers only on NewsChannel9.


....can't wait to hear those "tough questions". I bet you they will be softballs, and any answers will be handled by the interviewer without any tough followup or probing. These guys talk of a media campaign!

Anonymous said...

Please GA trash, take your disfunction back to Walker County with the media workin child abuser. The forensics and sexulized behavior in these very young girls indicate to me the Ms. Crafty is guilty and manipulated the media.

Anonymous said...

the STARmeter: for the little Actress is Down 8% in popularity this week

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:43
Learn to spell you illiterate moron.
The only people playing to the media was "facebook" and "the man"
Go away fool.

PitOwner said...

Nosie_Rosie

Laughing that 2 grown men r running scared from lil' bitty @calliestarnes ...scared she might ask what they wear when they mow? #tonyacraft

Anonymous said...

so I won't be an illiterate fool also, I'm correcting myself.

....media were "facebook" ...

Anonymous said...

I have a question for the "Man" based on his fishing stories. How do you carry your fishing poles in that little car you drive, and do you wear diapers when you go so you don't have to pee every ten minutes?

Anonymous said...

Please 3:43 Share the forensics you speak of!! I missed that somewhere, I am being serious...not saracastic. What forensics?tplas

Anonymous said...

I'm a poster from Canada; I heard about the trial through an ABC online blurb about Miss Tanya's exoneration. The article was not at all clear so I've spent hours reading this blog, its links and related news stories. Her prosecuters, judge, ex husband, lamb and related condemers display sociopathic behaviour. They showed no regard for Tanya, her family or their own children in pursuit of a fradulent conviction. They might integrate into society but such people are monsters.

Victoria said...

On Facebook:

WTVC-TV NewsChannel 9 News
(Dan Lehr) for the record, the only agenda NewsChannel9 has had (& will continue to have) is to cover this story as fairly & as accurately as possible.
What follows is entirely my personal thoughts.
We have been accused of being 'in the tank' for either side (see above & elsewhere), & that is simply 100% not true.
Ask yourself this: if that were ... See Moretrue - if we were trying to favor one side or the other - how could that possibly benefit us in the long run? How is that serving our entire NewsChannel9 viewing audience? Answer: it doesn't, & would be an extremely bad strategy for any media outlet.
What would we stand to gain by being biased to one side or the other? Absolutely nothing, & in fact we would lose a great deal more than any gain. It is not in our best interest, far from it. How could we possibly be viewed as being fair on ~any~ story in the future if we consciously chose to do that?
If you inferred by any of our coverage through the trial that we favored one side or the other, let me assure you once again: Everyone at NewsChannel9 is committed to covering this story - & every other one - as fairly & accurately as possible. Period. Again, what I write here are my personal thoughts. Thanks for reading.
Yesterday at 5:38am

...uh, maybe they want to continue to have a preferred relationship with the court and officials as a news source so they can have access to the next story. Is it just mere coincidence that Callie Starnes has been trying unsuccessfully to get an interview with the persecutors but amazingly channell 9 will have those infidels on tonight?

PitOwner said...

@Victoria - Right on!

Connie Wilson said...

For anyone interested in helping Tonya, this website was just created for people to contribute:

http://www.helptonya.com/

GRITS said...

To all of the GRITS talking trash on both sides. Y'all are making your town and corner of GA look like it's smack full of trailer trash. Mama let us get away with a bit of hating on each other as long as it was done behind closed doors and not in front of company. Right now, y'all have a whole heap of company watching you and it ain't looking good for the home team - whichever one you consider that to be. Show some pride and hush! - GRITS from SC, watching with a whole bunch of people from all over the US and beyond. P.S. for you foreigners, GRITS = Girl(s) Raised in the South. (smile)

Anonymous said...

You are correct the Lambs,Wilsons,Boyds,Mcdonalds & her ex-husband showed no mercey.So why should we show them anything less?

tplas said...

why not just have a paypal acct on the t4t page? another site popping up may seem suspicious...???...

Anonymous said...

Grits,you sound so uneducated.I lived in S.C. for three years & I never met anyone as stupid as you.Oh sorry Y'OULL.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Please GA trash, take your disfunction back to Walker County with the media workin child abuser. The forensics and sexulized behavior in these very young girls indicate to me the Ms. Crafty is guilty and manipulated the media.

May 14, 2010 3:43 PM


Uh let's say you're right that their behavior is indicative of sexual abuse BUT there was not any evidence to prove in the slightest Tonya Craft is guilty but rather her innocense. Then WHO is the culprit? Hmm? Maybe you should keep these kind of thoughts under wraps as the fingers may start pointing elsewhere, ya think?!!!

Anonymous said...

Not sure this is relevant w/CAC BUT, I have been associated with a woman who is involved w/The Center for Hope in Fort Oglethorpe. As a counselor - with "DR." before her name - she is actively involved w/counseling of marriages, children w/issues and etc. This is a woman who rec'd her "DR" from a religious seminary "building" on Cross St. There is documented evidence that a person who worked at a local paper selling business did her homework for this "DR" degree. What concerns me is that this "DR" has had 4 failed marriages and has a child that was taken from her because of neglect. This "DR" has also been involved w/ a prisoner from a local facility. When the outside community puts their faith in a "DR" without knowing all of the background - this is absurd!!
Isn't there a way to let people know who and what they have counseling these people?

Anonymous said...

Sorry Y'ALL!Idiots.

tpc said...

Anonymous said...
"Please GA trash, take your disfunction back to Walker County with the media workin child abuser. The forensics and sexulized behavior in these very young girls indicate to me the Ms. Crafty is guilty and manipulated the media."


TRASH? oh wait GA TRASH? I must have missed something the trash I've seen in GA is on the back of a BFI truck. Name calling is so childish. Can you not state your opinion without name calling? You are showing your lack of education on the subject at hand. Are you privy to all "the forensics and sexulized behavior"? If so why weren't you called to the stand? Opinions are just that opinions and every one has one...and as far as guilty... the information was reviewed by EXPERTS and a jury of Tonya Craft's peers...none of which were you therefore the verdict is NOT GUILTY regardless of how you name call it.

Anonymous said...

Anon. 3:43,are you really that stupid?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry about what some people say, they cannot change NOT GUILTY no matter what they whine about. And, God was on our side because He stands for the truth. So, when the others blow smoke, that's all it is. They know they r not wanted in Chickamauga no maattwr what they say.

KC Sprayberry said...

Hah! Found the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnnUfHK_3Q

Amazing what happens when you frame your request in a question.

Anonymous said...

I agree no one want's these people in Chickamauga.Lambs,Wilsons,Mcdonalds & Boyds.Listen to what people are saying about you.

Anonymous said...

Not GUILTY!HELLO

Anonymous said...

I think anon.4:27 must be Sandra Lamb or Miriam Boyd.

Mad as Hell in Catoosa County said...

Thanks Dan and Trish. I appreciate the support. The past couple of years has really been hard, but the love of and for my child affirms my strength and commitment to fight back every day.

It takes strong people to endure this kind of hell. If anybody else out there is having the same type of problems, the only advice I can offer is this saying. I don't know if I heard it somewhere or if I made it up one day, but it gets me thru the worst.

The path to righteousness is long and winding, but the course is true and just.

I need a new attorney due to an upcoming conflict of interest. Anybody have thoughts on Mary Jane Melton in Lafayette? I've only heard good things so far.

Anonymous said...

I love Mrs.Day,who wouldn't?She is so sweet & kind & I truly believe she loves all of the kids.But Kristen Bradley is not that way.She does everything the four families want,no other child gets the same respect from her.A good example Bradley sent home a note to parents saying no outside food can be brought in to students,guess what?Sandra Lamb brings food to her little actress/drama queen.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think anon.4:27 must be Sandra Lamb or Miriam Boyd.


Are you serious? Maybe I wasn't clear enough, the person I was responding to is attempting to say Tonya Craft is guilty to spite the lack of evidence. The person is trying to say because the children are sexually sophisticated that proves something happened. What I was attempting (apparently not clearly) to say is that if this person is correct (which I DO NOT BELIEVE)that something did happen to the children then someone else did it NOT TONYA CRAFT! Now does that sound like the opinion of Sandra Lamb or Miriam Boyd? Uh NO!

Anonymous said...

To mad as hell in catoosa,Mary Jane Melton is a good lawyer,I know because I have used her.You will be in good hands. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Anon.5:08 i'm sorry i miss read.Did not mean to upset you,sorry I think we get so heated reading things that we might over look something.

William L. Anderson said...

Hey, is anyone going to the CAC-LMJD fundraiser? It starts in 15 minutes, Oh, Joy!!!

If you don't have a thong, you might feel out of place! It is your chance to support perjury, wrongful convictions, and dishonesty! Get autographs from Facebook, The Man, House of Horrors, and the newly-reprimanded Kristina "Bobby's My Daddy" Graham!

Kaye said...

anon 9:17:

Yes, I watched the whole interview with Sheriff Summers from 9-11 pm. I posted about it in the previous blog's thread. Interesting, wasn't it?

Anonymous said...

I am so tired of seeing Sandra Lambs face.At least horse face Miriam is in hidding.Or we hope.

PitOwner said...

calliestarnes

ONLY ON 3: A N. Ga woman says her brother was railroaded by same circuit that tried #TonyaCraft. He's been in jail for 3 yrs. Story at 6.

Kaye said...

On newchannel 9 @ 5... Arnt and Gregor refer to D-lo as a "one trick pony." Hey guys, if your evidence had been solid, then the experts would not have been able to debunk it so easily, right?

Last night on Night Talk, Sheriff Summers said that the prosecution often has their own experts to support the methods that the evidence was gathered, but he didn't say why there weren't additional experts to support the methods used by Deal, CAC, and others against Tonya Craft. Why do you suppose that is? Betcha I could guess. Looks like the one-trick pony managed to do his work very effectively. Since you're both so smart, and you were fully aware of who Tonya's lead defense attorney was, and therefore knew his defense strategy ahead of time, why pray tell did you not present experts of your own? doh.

Anonymous said...

Someone please tell me why the Lamb girl special att. at school.If she is so broken Sandra needs to get her head out of her ass long enough & put her in a special school to get the help she needs.If she is broken it is due to Sandra.

Anonymous said...

Mrs. Boyd,

Imagine I schedule an appointment with Dr. Boyd. He gives me his professional opinion, then after he leaves the room....let's say a pre-med. student who is job shadowing, turns to me and refutes EVERYTHING your husband says....Should I believe your husband or the pre-med. student??? Help me out here..I'm not sure who is most knowledgeable... Oh, without a doubt you say, "Believe my husband of course." Well of course...But you, fine lady, also expect me to believe this Evans lady who couldn't even find her notes, over doctors from Vanderbilt Medical Center and Emory. I guess that's because they clearly explained every position you stand on away. Tell me why you think they are so desperate for money that they would sell their credibility for 2,000 bucks. I know this is going to bother you, but you and Mrs. Lamb are news worthy for another week. But Tonya will be news worthy, as far as legal studies go, for a very long time. Law students will study this case...seeing it as a travesty of justice to be avoided. They will be instructed to follow the standards explained in court by these doctors...the exact professionals that you disregard. Let me ask you....are you going to watch Dateline when it unravels the whole ball of yarn???

dmk said...

I found Sandra Lamb's interview fascinating in sort of a train wreck sort of way, but I've seen it enough now. I had wondered how she actually sounds and appears (oh, btw Sandra, my wife was right when she told me you can always tell how old a women really is by looking closely at her hands. The cameraperson and editing didn't do you any favors there) and now I know.

Before she starts her next false accusation witch hunt, she might want to pay for some of those acting lessons that aren't really acting lessons for her, the body language said it all - lying through her teeth, and badly, but to what end other than trying to elicit some sympathy I'm not sure. Feeling a bit the pariah already maybe? That angel on the shoulder story was a classic too, but way, way overdone.

Mad as Hell in Catoosa County said...

@ Thanks Anon 5:11!!!

@ Dan .. apparently some people didn't think my comment was as poignant as yourself. I got some backlash for it on Channel 12's site. Thank God I don't live my life with their approval or the lack thereof, otherwise I might be devastated.

Anonymous said...

So true all you have to do is make a child mad at you and they can make up any lies even the most ridiculous ones will be believed we are going thru it right now. My children are scared to death every time a car stps in our street because channel 9 showed our house and name on tv. What about our protection? It is unbelievable what we are going thru. And all this because "KIDS DONT LIE". I wish that was true, we wouldn't have so many innocent people in jail.

Anonymous said...

I like Harmony,the Boyd girl was talking trash on facebook the other night.And people need to know why we feel the way we do about the four families?You say you have heard the names wILSONS,Boyds,Lambs & Mcdonalds enough.I don't think so.

Anonymous said...

I love anon.5:33 & dmk,great job guy's.

John said...

Any1 seen this Craft Juror Emotional After 'Not Guilty' Decision
Comments 16 | Recommend 2
May 12, 2010 5:47 PM
Kevin Sims
The dust still hasn't settled from the Tonya Craft trial and jurors are still reeling from their decision. Craft, the former kindergarten teacher was found not guilty of molesting three young girls Tuesday and her fate, rested in the hands of a dozen strangers.

Among them, 'Butch', who asked us not to reveal his identity out of fear of retaliation from community members. "Oh I could go see a psychiatrist today," he says. "It's really messed me up bad." All though if anyone is out to protect children, it would be this father and grandfather. "I would kill anybody if I (saw) anybody hurting a kid. I mean I really would. That's how strong I feel about it." But he is also passionate about the process. And the proof, he says, just wasn't there. "I think the parents played a big role in all the girls' testimony, whether they meant to or not."

'Butch' watched the witnesses and made mental notes when they rolled their eyes or became flustered. And then came Tonya's turn on the stand. "She was nervous of course. I would have been too." Nervous, but believable. And when it came time to reach that verdict, they never took a vote. They just went around the table and talked. Initially, only one woman felt there might be something to it, according to Butch. "And I think she (agreed) to go along with this so that the kids would not have to go through this again."

Despite judge's orders, 'Butch' teared up as the verdict rang out. "I watched Tonya and I believe she almost collapsed on the first one. And on the 22nd one if they hadn't have grabbed that woman she would have hit the floor."

'Butch' will live the rest of his life with a 'what-if.' What if he was wrong. What if he let a child molester walk. What if it haunts him forever. "The little girls is what bothers me..." Butch says before tearing up.

Initially the jury agreed only the foreman would talk for the group but 'Butch' says he just had to get a weight off his chest and needed to talk to somebody. He hopes the other jurors don't hold it against him. In fact all jurors traded phone numbers to support each other if they need it.

'Butch' says he would like to meet Tonya Craft face-to-face. He believes that might help him through some of the stress over his decision.

Anonymous said...

I like anon 5:06,you hit the nail on the head.

PitOwner said...

@Anon 5:54 - I don't think that anyone is disputing how you feel about these families.
I've been reading all the comments in all the posts and I would have to say that 98% are in agreement with you.
I think the problem is with the fact that you feel the need to comment over and over and over again with the same thing.
If you look at Lookout Spy's post with the form letter to contact authorities, it is posted one time per thread and, respectfully, states that he will stop when requested to do so by Mr. Anderson.
Your point is made the first time that you post it in a thread, and whomever sees it and wishes to comply will do so.
Having to read it over and over and over again after every other comment is, to put it mildly, extremely annoying.

tpc said...

dmk THAT hand comment is GREAT! I said the exact thing to my husband!! LOL Your wife is right!

Anonymous said...

Pit owner that was my first post of the day.Other people say things over & again,did I say something to offend you? If so sorry I was just agreeing with Harmony.

Anonymous said...

@ kbp my comment at 1:11 was off of the news channel 9 facebook page. A view asked the question and they replied! I copied and pasted it as it was written, if it is gone now then they removed it! The question from the lady is still on their wall and there is another comment:

"We live in the same neighborhood as Tonya Craft did when all of these allegations first started. A lady from NewChannel 9 came to our house, rang the doorbell and asked us what we thought about our neighbor being charged with child molestation. We had no idea who she was talking about. We followed her to the front yard and she showed us which house it had taken place in. It would have been completely inappropriate for us to comment on something we had no knowledge of. "

dmk said...

@Anon 5:54

Count me as one who is aggravated at wading through the multiple posts to get to the good ones of other people. Let me ask you this - if you've got a mildew and mold problem, what do you do? You clean the the best you can, but most importantly, you change the growing conditions by drying up the area so it will go away and not come back. All the families you want to go away are there because of the growing conditions - you can clean them up, but others will surely start to grow. But, if you put your efforts into committing to change the conditions like many of us here have, then you won't have to worry as much about mold just growing right back. Think about it.

Anonymous said...

PitOwner & dmk,that was the only post I have read today saying the families name.Why are you going after this person?This person seems just as upset as you & everyone else posting.Many have said things about Sandra Lamb & even the Boyd's today. So what gives?

ihatecatoosa said...

Sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of my vomit! OK I take that back but I came close. PLEASE! what else is she going to say. "yea we had it out for that Tonya woman".

PitOwner said...

@Anon 6:19 - Please, no apology is necessary, and you've said absolutely nothing that has offended me.
I was just trying to explain a point, and I apologize if my comment was misdirected.
Understandable, though, since "Anonymous" seems to be a more popular name, here, than any other.

KC Sprayberry said...

Another thumbs up for Mary Jane Melton. My husband and I consulted her when he faced the same kind of charges. Fortunately, we never had to go to court and everything dropped. But if you need a lion on your side, she is one of the best I've found in this area.

PitOwner said...

calliestarnes

At 5:30 DA Buzz Franklin, who hasn't returned our calls, sent a fax to local media about #TonyaCraft. He's disappointed in verdict.

Anonymous said...

dmk I now feel bad, I agreed with your earilier post & even said so & was cheering,who knew you could be mean.

PitOwner said...

Nosie_Rosie

Buzz blames media 4 losing #tonyacraft case. We didn't let state have "fair trial" .. Hmm, isn't it the DEFNSE that's guaranteed fair trial?

PitOwner said...

calliestarnes

[Buzz] Says "reporters openly took sides" and "internet blogosphere created an environment hostile to State's ability to recieve fair trial"

Calls defense's strategy "shameless" and says media coverage was bias although only watching "bits and pieces" on tv.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Pit Owner,I think we all get caught up in everything we read.We are all on the same side,sometimes we get carried away. Thanks.

PitOwner said...

calliestarnes

If the media (according to Franklin) had such a big impact on #TonyaCraft trial, I have to wonder about the cases we weren't there for?

Anonymous said...

how can HAG and Buzz complain that the media caused this. The jury didn't hear this.. they the jury saw through the corruption first hand as we all could only pray they would.

Kaye said...

Arnt, Gregor and Franklin are grasping at straws, hoping to deflect the ire of the people. Aint' gonna work, guys.

cb said...

Where the hell is that hag Miriam? I miss her!! NOT ha! She must be chasing her next victim or camera!

PitOwner said...

@Anon 7:28 - I agree.
What's really amazing (or not) is that NOBODY on the "State's side" seems to think that anything was wrong on the prosecution side of this trial.

Hear that, Mr Anderson? It's all YOUR fault!

Anonymous said...

Well Buzzy, you have now sealed your fate with the comment in your fax to the news stations.

"I am disappointed in the verdict"

How can an attorney with any common sense not see the light by now? The defendant is the only person that didn't get a fair trial and yet she prevailed because of the lack of evidence and the sham of an investigation.

Buzzy, you know that polygraphs are almost impossible to beat. You must know that this teacher had an unblemished reputation as a teacher. The public cannot buy the state's position that she suddenly started molesting children after all that time, especially with the witnesses that the defense presented. I know "you're boys" called them "whores of the court". That's kinda strong don't you think?
Especially when one of them has only testified for the defense 15 times out of a total of 200. She must have been really convinced, huh.

Oh yeah, none of that matters to you, but thank God it mattered to the jury. You are simply a piece of crap that will not and can not admit when your office has made a mistake. And you don't have the balls to fire your suck buddies. After all they know too many of YOUR dirty little secrets, huh?

Another thing Buzzy. I have never heard of a DA not prosecuting a case of this high a profile himself. Bill Cox in Tennessee always heads up important cases. You either didn't agree with this case being prosecuted in the first place (like it's been rumored) or
you are a frigging coward that let "your pathetic, narcicisstic, idiotic" minions take the fall for you. That way you could push for the case being tried, yet not really have to take the heat.

Guess what? The public (us) hold the head honcho responsible and we hold cowards in utter contempt. My daddy always told me, "a man that can't admit his mistakes, is not much of a man". Amen daddy.

kbp said...

Anon 6:24

Thanks!

I'd had found it by just searching a copy of part of the quote you'd put up!

:)

Anonymous said...

The interview with Sandra Lamb was great! She is as evil as I thought. Don't you hate the way she said "witch hunt"? Freak. And ok does anyone else think that it was wierd when she said her daughter asked "ok so how long is she going to be in jail? What in the hell kinda ? was that? Obviously she has been coached by her evil ass mother. How old is this kid 20 or 8? I was anticipating Miriam's arrival but she never showed up. ha ha I bet she's mad at Sandra for camera hogging.

Lookout Spy said...

BUZZ Frankin has come out of his Turtle shell... stuck his neck out... trying to claim and blame the truth is Tonya Craft is really guilty, despite the verdict of the jury, who all said they saw none of the media, therefore HE is really totally guilty, not her.

In other words he is claiming the jury was compromised, but did not move for mistrial. Too bad, Mr. Franklin, you blew the case then.

Damn, he is just as reponsible as Arndt And Gregor, even House defends his actions. We have a serious case of denial here, it's a river in Egypt.

Buzz should have fired those 2 this week, however now he will go down with the other rats as well.

Stupid, pathetic blind turtle. He has admitted he is just as guilty as the HAG team, and it will cost him, he could have saved himself, but instead joins hands with the ministers of injustice.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Isn't it illegal to make a reproduction of Olan Mills Photos? There are pictures of Brian House and his family on his brianhouseforjudge.com website. I wonder if he obtained a copyright release from Olan Mills. Would that be grounds for them to sue?

Lame said...

Two things:

1) Gregor & Arnt called DLo a "one trick pony." Hmmm. Since we're calling people names associated with equines, I've got one for him, but unfortunately, it's not the entire animal, that he would be; only the posterior portion.

2) Buzz blaming the media for anything ia repugnant. It was the prosecution who brought media in on this in the first place (Craft only ever went to the media in response to highly-inflamatory stories put out by Channel Slime). And, much to Channel Slime's chagrin (look at their poll about the roll of media in the verdict), the jurors did not watch ANY of the coverage of the case and stayed off of facebook.

Anyone wanna see a good analogy to this whole situation where a prosecutor tried to railroad someone only to end up getting themselves into trouble should watch this clip from youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

And, although I posted it before, I'm posting it again, this is the BEST video to exemplify the situation of the prosecution's belief that their case was airtight, ignoring what us and many other people were saying, and ultimately having the whole thing sink right under their feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8IBnfkcrsM

PitOwner said...

antwanharris

At CAC fundraiser. No ADA Arnt, Gregor, or DA Franklin in sight. Showgirls here though. http://twitpic.com/1nt8o3

Lookout Spy said...

This is a repost, and I will repost until Mr. Anderson requests I stop. In order to achieve justice, citizen action is needed, and the only way to do it is by writing the appropriate authorities regularly and consistently.


Mr. Stephen D. Kelley Chair,and Barry E. Morgan, Vice-Chair of Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of Georgia
104 Marietta Street NW, Suite 400
Atlanta, Georgia 30303-2743

Sally Quillian Yates, United States Attorney
c/o Didi Nelson
LECC Manager
Richard B. Russell Federal Building
75 Spring Street, S.W.
Suite 600
Atlanta, GA 30303-3309

Thurbert Baker Esq.
Office of the Attorney General
40 Capitol Square, SW
Atlanta, Ga 30334



Dear Mr Baker, Ms. Yates, Ms. Nelson, Mr. Kelley, and Mr. Morgan,

As a citizen residing within the Lookout Mountain judicial Circuit, I am writing to see about the possibility of the Georgia State Attorney General's Office, and the U.S. DOJ Law Enforcement Coordinating Committee coordinating with the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of Georgia for investigating and prosecuting the official misconduct of the officers of the Court in the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit, as being a pattern and practice to deprive the citizens of the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit of their constitutional rights to fair trial. This pattern and practice extends not only within the criminal prosecutions conducted within the circuit, but civil actions as well, as all four Judges, Judge Wood, Judge Graham, Judge Van Pelt, and Judge House have destroyed so many families by their behaviors and practices. When is the law going to be FOR the people, and not the officers of the Court?
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.
Authorities:
18 U.S.C. SECTION 242
The Government must prove four elements to establish the offenses performed by the Defendants.
First: The person upon whom the alleged acts were
committed must have been an inhabitant of a state, district or territory of the United States.
Second: The defendant must have been acting under color of law.
Third: The conduct of the defendant must have deprivedthe victim of some right secured or protected by the Constitution of the United States.
Fourth: The defendant must have acted willfully, that is, with a specific intent to violate the protected constitutional right.



I urge all of you to act promptly and diligently to see justice is served for the citizens of the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit.

Sincerely, ________________________


Include your name and address below your signature.



This can be used as a form letter. Feel free to copy, paste and mail 3 letters.

The JQC should have enough before them to work with already, so I pulled it from the suggested letter. For less than 3 bucks, we can state our opinion. Hell of a deal.

Kaye said...

Here is a link to Franklin's entire faxed statement to media.

http://www.wrcbtv.com/global/story.asp?s=12485695

Anonymous said...

Sandra Lamb,

You say Tonya is as guilty as O.J.? Well, in that situation, the victim's families won hands down in a civil trial. I don't believe you have the courage, nor do you have a case. Tonya, however, does have a case against you. I don't think she wants to continue with this "back and forth", but I wouldn't keep taunting her and her legal team. You have way to much liability. If you had legitimate legal counsel, they would advise you of this.

Brentwood, TN

Anonymous said...

I feel sick,Sandra Lamb was just on Inside Edition.This women is beyond sick or evil.She has thrown her own daughter under the bus & has sold her out for a few moments of fame. DFAC needs to take the child away from this monster.

KC Sprayberry said...

The Monty Python clips certainly do represent the DA, ADAs and judge in this case. I read the full fax and am really ashamed the DA decided to shove his head far into the sand (being nice) instead of demanding hard core answers. And the interview of the dog and pony show in NC9 only firmed my decision not to view them again. Arnt and Gregor must have prepared the script. Hardline questions? NOT! Please feel sorry for us because we're misunderstood, underpaid public servants questions? Sure. And both came off looking like a donkey's behind. That they and Franklin still support the local CAC as cutting edge for investigative techniques in this kind of crime scares me. I'm still willing to go forward but have concerns we might not make a difference. So, anyone out there from this area know if the DA's office comes under direct supervision of the county commissioners or do we have to go straight to the top, as in the attorney general?

Anonymous said...

Miriam you need to call your buddy Sandra & have her read all of this.Sandra is so mental it is unreal,she has lost her grip on reality.She should be locked up,its sad she is even hurting Reagan by running her mouth on T.V.

PitOwner said...

Sandra "One Interview and One Interview Only" Lamb was on Inside Edition?

Anonymous said...

I hope Sandra's soon to be ex- takes the daughter & never let's her see her.She is the worst mother in the world.She is hurting the child more than anyone ever could.

Anonymous said...

I can't remember who posted this article.

It states that over 80 child predators have been arrested in North Georgia in the last 2 yrs.

What's the population size of North Georgia?

I wonder how this compares state wide and across the country?

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/may/13/attorney-questions-craigslist-investigations/

Denise C. said...

It was the same interview that was shown on Channel 3 wasn't it.

Anonymous said...

I heard Sandra's son left to live with the dad.No wonder, he can see how evil she is & want's nothing to do with her.To bad the girl is to little to leave.

Victoria said...

Another article on 12 about: Children's Advocacy Center Speaks Out About Craft Case

http://wdef.com/news/childrens_advocacy_center_speaks_out_about_craft_case/05/2010#comment-235674


This one quotes Kittle:

Holly Kittle says, "I do not go into an interview searching for anything. In fact, I go into an interview hoping that this has not happened."
Holly Kittle is a forensic interviewer for the Children's Advocacy Center and interviewed one of Tonya Craft's accusers about a year after the allegations came out.
She says she's trained to the Children's Advocacy of Georgia standards.
Kittle says she asks the kids open ended questions, not leading or suggestive ones like Craft's defense suggested.
Kittle says, "I felt like I was personally attacked, but my interview and my job was minimally attacked."
Kittle says she keeps and open mind and even looks into an alternative hypothesis.
Kittle says, "I know how to do my job, and I know that I was trained to do my job, and I do my job to the best of my ability."

Anonymous said...

I hope Mrs.Day & Mrs.Bradley were watching to see how crazy,nuts,mental & disturbed Sandra is.

dmk said...

Antwanharris at CAC gala tweet pic

Lock up the kids tonight! We need a back shot to confirm (or Len Gregor on the scene to do some of his crack investigatin') but I'm guessing there COULD be thongs under those outfits!!!

Lookout Spy said...

Does anyone think Buzz Franklin, Chief Prosecutor, is going to set presentment before a Grand jury in the LMJC against any Officer of the Court, or any of the Sheriff's Dept, the CAC, etc, after issuing that little fax?

It's going to have to come from outside the LMJC, they all are covering each other as fast as they can scurry the brighter the light gets.

When things get this bad, the FBI and the State Attorney General set up a joint investigative team. The AG actually is the only agency in the State that can act without being charged for conflict of interest, as long as no one down there has a personal association in real life.

The AG would technically be required to defend the parties in a action against the State under respondeat superior, but once indicted by two grand juries for criminal charges, they have no personal immunities for acts committed contrary to the Criminal Codes under Title 16 and 17 of the GA Code, and Title 16 of the Federal Code. As defendants being able to present defenses before the grand juries, the parties are subject to State and Federal prosecution, as well as tort damages in civil litigation.

Naturally, once indicted, they lose staus for their defense from the AG's office, as they will lose their jobs due to suspension or outright dismissal if they take a plea... Nifong is up for 180 million in damages from the Duke "rape" case a few years back. H was a high faluting chief prosector back in the day.

98% conviction rates smell like a one way train ticket to me, when the national average is less than 50 percent.

Anonymous said...

Lets not forget Sandras daddy French Newton. He is the one with money. He has a building behind JD Kinders furniture. Sign on building Newton Enterprises.

Anonymous said...

On Inside Edition tonight I was waiting for Miriam Boyd to walk in,how dare Sandrs Lamb do an interview without her.

Anonymous said...

Everyone boycot Newton Enterprises.That is Sandra Lambs father.

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